Letterman's Replacement
April 11th, 2014 at 9:45:22 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | In light of the fact that Jimmy Fallon took the Tonight show for $12 million per year, I actually don't think that CBS considered Craig Ferguson or Jon Stewart at all. Stephen Colbert's Annual Salary $6 Million Chelsea Handler $12 million Craig Ferguson's Annual Salary $12.7 Million Jon Stewart's Annual Salary $25 Million |
April 11th, 2014 at 10:25:31 AM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
I was genuinely surprised; Colbert had not occurred to me, but I think he might be very good. I heard the transition will be from his "persona" to himself, and I think that's a good move, but I don't know what the public will accept from him after several years of playing "Stephen Colbert". My impression has been, when he's just talking in interviews and on talk shows that he's a lot more sympathetic and interesting than the guy he plays on his own show. I agree they probably thought Jon Stewart was too costly, assuming it's required for his salary to rise. But I would've thought Craig Ferguson had a contract that would almost guarantee him the slot. Maybe he didn't want it? Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
April 11th, 2014 at 10:51:48 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Craig did negotiate a $5 or $8 million lump sum payment if he was not offered Letterman's position when Letterman retired. He openly let it be known that he craved the position. So Les Moonves made a costly decision to pay off Craig and hire Stephen Colbert. It is very likely that they will not renew Craig Ferguson's contract after it expires this year. So the payout to Craig will partly be offset by the new hire, who will probably be considerably cheaper. I believe Conan O'Brien started at $1 million per year when he replaced Letterman in 1993. Prior to that his only exposure to being on - camera was 21 episodes of Saturday Night Live as a bit performer. Almost all of his experience was as a writer. I guess that all these hosts change their format to accommodate the earlier time slot. Letterman was different when he had the late hour. Clearly Chelsea Handler would have to clean up her act to take the Letterman position. But Chelsea Handler built her entire reputation on being offensive. Bottom line, is that the executives were simply afraid that Craig Ferguson may never have a broad following. Of course, there is the perennial speculation that Fox may try and revive a late night show. Since they usually air TMZ at 11:00 they have the option of starting earlier. |
April 11th, 2014 at 12:48:05 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18213 |
It could be weird to see as once a persona is developed the "act" is the person in many ways. Limbaugh once had some minor complaints when he did This Week years and years back. He replied that when you go on someone else's show you bend to their format. When you see Limbaugh, Stern, McMahon, or Leykis to name a few on someone else's show you often see a different person. But Colbert will still be on his own show, so it will not be the same. I doubt I will notice as the last time I watched a Leno Show was when is saw on taped. Last time I saw an entire Letterman was never. The President is a fink. |
April 11th, 2014 at 8:12:38 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | I'm very happy for Colbert and I think it's a great choice. The real Colbert is indeed a very thoughtful, intelligent, and kind man - I can't wait for him to drop the act. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
April 11th, 2014 at 9:32:23 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | I don't like Colbert, he's not mainstream funny like Letterman. He's niche funny, a small niche. He might last 6 weeks. Totally different kinds of audiences. Colbert wears thin very fast, he's scripted funny. Letterman is off the cuff funny, it's his trademark. He see's all sides of something at once and picks the funniest one. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 11th, 2014 at 9:53:00 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Letterman did 90 episodes of an early show in 1980, and made no connection. Fred Silverman paid him $20,000 per week deal to sit out a year and guest-host a few times on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. On November 9, 1981, NBC and Carson's production company Carson Productions and announced the creation of Late Night with David Letterman, set to premiere in early 1982 in the 12:30 a.m. time slot Monday through Thursday. Tomorrow Coast to Coast program hosted by Tom Snyder ended on December 17, 1981 and Letterman took over next February. First show 1 February 1982 Many people despised Conan when he took over for Letterman. It is a risky business. |
April 11th, 2014 at 11:32:23 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | I still don't like Conan, his self deprecating humor wears very thin very fast. Look how Letterman let Murray run with it in the very first show. Colbert has a giant ego and he would never have done that. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 12th, 2014 at 1:51:11 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Outside of NBC Tonight, there really aren't a lot of viewers. You have to figure that if each show can produce one to three segments that can be watched on a computer with a commercial, that has to make the revenue per show increase significantly. SEASON TO DATE (SINCE FEB. 17, “LIVE PLUS SAME DAY”) 11:35 p.m.-12:35 a.m. ET NBC “Tonight,” 5.018 million viewers CBS “Late Show,” 2.769 million viewers ABC “Kimmel,” 2.643 million viewers 12:35-1:05 a.m. ET ABC “Nightline,” 1.608 million viewers 12:35-1:35 a.m. ET NBC “Late Night,” 2.024 million viewers CBS “Late Late Show,” 1.345 million viewers 1:35-2:05 a.m. ET NBC “Last Call,” 1.020 million viewers SELECTED CABLE RESULTS, WEEK OF MARCH 31-APRIL 4 Comedy Central, 11-11:30 p.m. “The Daily Show,” 1.643 million Comedy Central, 11:30 p.m.-midnight ET, “The Colbert Report,” 1.356 million TBS, 11 p.m.-midnight, “Conan,” 0.871 million Adult Swim, 11:30 p.m.-12:30 a.m. ET, 2.059 million viewers Adult Swim, 12:30-1:30 a.m. ET, 1.452 million viewers |
April 12th, 2014 at 6:50:03 AM permalink | |
zippyboy Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 2 Posts: 665 | I haven't watched Letterman since 1984. HE wasn't too bad, but Paul Shaffer was waaaay too irritating. Made me want to shoot a hole in my TV. Shaffer ruined the whole show for me, regardless of how good a job Letterman did. Conan wasn't much better; his chin and hair were caricatures in themselves, and I always thought his sense of timing was off. I can't stand Fallon at all, but Kimmel is pretty good and spontaneously funny. I prefer Colbert to Jon Stewart any day of the week. I also think Stewart's timing is off. Why wasn't Craig Kilborn mentioned? I thought he did a great job on The Daily Show back in mid-90s. I watch Chelsea Handler fairly regularly, but agree she's not the right choice for Late Night. My gf hates her and buries herself in Facebook when Chelsea Lately comes on. Colbert Report is too political for mainstream, but I think it's genuinely laugh-out-loud funny, moreso than Stewart's Daily Show. Colbert will have to change his personality to get the viewers. Heck, he might even call himself 'col-bert' rather than 'col-bear' so as to seem less hoity-toity. |