Next item in sequence?

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April 18th, 2014 at 8:14:02 PM permalink
Mosca
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Mosca: threadkiller.
April 19th, 2014 at 12:47:12 PM permalink
blount2000
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Copper, bronze, steel, brass, ...?

I was thinking this may be 'increasing levels of metal hardness', but I believe steel is harder than brass so that idea doesn't seem to hold water.

Perhaps a hint? ;)
April 19th, 2014 at 1:11:52 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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I prefer the more mathematical sequences, like fill in the missing number below

11111111111111
1110
112
????????
24
22
20
16
15
14
13
12
11
10

Hint: count and label the rows (including the missing one), and count the number of digits in each row. I used 8 question marks, because I didn't want to give away the number of digits, but I didn't mean to imply that the answer had 8 digits.
April 19th, 2014 at 4:11:50 PM permalink
Mosca
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Quote: blount2000
I was thinking this may be 'increasing levels of metal hardness', but I believe steel is harder than brass so that idea doesn't seem to hold water.

Perhaps a hint? ;)


Each has taken the place of the preceding, over time.
April 19th, 2014 at 4:29:27 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Mosca
Each has taken the place of the preceding, over time.


The oldest steel production was about 4000 years ago, while brass was made in pre-history. You may not be ranking them by oldest examples, but by common usage.


Although aluminum salts were used by Greeks and Romans, and it is an element, it was only a functional metal in the last two centuries. So I would go with aluminum.
April 19th, 2014 at 6:19:24 PM permalink
Mosca
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It's not their order of discovery; a common item was once made primarily of each, and is now made primarily of something else. But now it is probably easy to guess what is next in sequence.
April 19th, 2014 at 6:25:06 PM permalink
blount2000
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Quote: Mosca
Each has taken the place of the preceding, over time.


ZINC (The primary component of a penny coin)? I was thinking it may have had something to do with casino slot tokens, but as I searched around it started to look more like it may be the penny. That still may not be correct, though.


I'm still working on trying to figure out Paco's math sequence problem. I'm hoping the light will come on in my mind and the answer will become clear. No such luck yet, though!
April 19th, 2014 at 9:12:47 PM permalink
Mosca
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ZINC is correct.

Pennies were copper until the 1860s, bronze until 1942, steel in 1943, brass from 1944 to 1981, and zinc from '81 to present.

Of course brass and bronze are 95% copper. Bronze is 5% zinc, brass is 5% tin and zinc.
April 20th, 2014 at 5:32:11 AM permalink
blount2000
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Quote: Pacomartin
Hint: count and label the rows (including the missing one), and count the number of digits in each row. I used 8 question marks, because I didn't want to give away the number of digits, but I didn't mean to imply that the answer had 8 digits.


I believe I have the answer, but I had to really cheat (google) to get it.

If I recall correctly, Paco has a post-graduate degree in mathematics and I'd like to think that I would have needed one myself in order to figure out this problem. But I have a sneaking suspicion that this is something I should have been able to answer without an advanced math degree.

What do you think, Paco? Was this an advanced-level math problem, or have I just forgotten more than I care to admit (as a non-math major)?

The answer (32) is below. It is a list of the integer sequence "14 in base 14-n".

13. 11111111111111
12. 1110
11. 112
10. 32 <-------
9. 24
8. 22
7. 20
6. 16
5. 15
4. 14
3. 13
2. 12
1. 11
0. 10
April 20th, 2014 at 7:30:06 AM permalink
TheCesspit
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Quote: Pacomartin
I prefer the more mathematical sequences, like fill in the missing number below

11111111111111
1110
112
????????
24
22
20
16
15
14
13
12
11
10


32
Base 1,2,3,4....


Finally got it.
It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life
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