Chinese market for American films
July 18th, 2014 at 6:34:40 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Transformers: Age of Extinction currently has 73% of it's boxoffice from international market. That may rise. Of the 18 billion dollar movies, only one made a slight majority of it's boxoffice take from the domestic market. But the percentages are rising. The last five years have seen more and more films with over 70% from the international market. 76.90% 2011 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 72.70% 2009 Avatar 72.50% 2012 Skyfall 71.60% 2011 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 70.20% 2012 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey 69.90% 1997 Titanic 68.60% 2011 Transformers: Dark of the Moon 68.40% 2013 Frozen 67.40% 2010 Alice in Wonderland (2010) 66.30% 2013 Iron Man 3 66.30% 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 61.00% 2010 Toy Story 3 60.90% 1993 Jurassic Park 60.30% 2006 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 59.00% 2012 Marvel's The Avengers 58.70% 2012 The Dark Knight Rises 53.80% 1999 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 46.80% 2008 The Dark Knight It's interesting that though all of these movies have a lot of CGI effects, only two are out and out animation. |
July 23rd, 2014 at 2:36:26 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
Yeah, that's a problem for me in a lot of movies. For example, I started reading LotR at 12, probably re-read them 5 times by the time I left high school. I was beyond excited when they made the movies. And then, I found it really hard to watch any of them, because each had extended scenes of bloody and detailed war and dismemberment. Not that the books didn't; the movies were faithful to the account, but they were overlong on the gore and the fighting. I'm having the same problem trying to watch Game of Thrones; as excellent as the characters and the examination of human nature and failure are, the gore gives me nightmares. I had to quit around the end of the first season; it was just too graphic to enjoy. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
July 23rd, 2014 at 3:46:11 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | I think a full hour of Two Towers is CGI battle scenes. I always FF thru this, CGI bores me to tears. But at times I like it. When Gandalf is fighting the Balrog, it's very effective. And when they fight the cave troll, that's well done also. I was perplexed as to why Tom Bombadil was left out of the movie. He was the only character in the book not interested or effected by the rings power. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 25th, 2014 at 7:03:25 AM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
Funny you mention Tom Bombadil; I found that to be the biggest lack in the LotR movies, that he was overlooked/cut. I really liked that he was above the uses of power, and how much he cared for his Lady. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
July 25th, 2014 at 1:00:25 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Tolkein said of Bombadil: 'Tom Bombadil is not an important person — to the narrative. I suppose he has some importance as a 'comment.' I mean, I do not really write like that: he is just an invention, and he represents something that I feel important, though I would not be prepared to analyse the feeling precisely. I would not, however, have left him in, if he did not have some kind of function... And even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one (intentionally).' I guess to put him in the movie would have been confusing. Like Tolkein says, he wasn't important to the narrative. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 26th, 2014 at 1:06:04 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
Great quote. I didn't know any of that. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
July 26th, 2014 at 2:33:11 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
If Tolkein himself doesn't know why he's there exactly, we have no hope of figuring it out. He made him up, as he did all the characters, and didn't know what to do with him, so he did nothing. If you get into Tolkeins letters on discussing LOTR, you realize what a literary genius he was. LOTR didn't just happen, like a King novel, typed in a cocaine haze over a few weeks. Tolkein worked all of it out in his head over a period on many many years, the whole time chumming it up with fellow Oxford professor CS Lewis. And we get Narnia and Middle-Earth out of it. "Duriez tells the story of how these two brilliant authors met, discovered their common love for mythical tales, and pledged to bring such stories into the mainstream of public reading taste... Professionally, they studied and taught the literatures of medieval romance and, in Tolkien's case, the background of Norse myth. And they realized that it was only quite recently that such stories had become marginalized as children's stories... It dawned on both men that there was a need to create a readership again for these books—especially an adult readership." If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 27th, 2014 at 9:55:42 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | The fourth Transformers movie has now passed $300 million in China. Usually only three or four movies in Northern America pass $300 million. Although the markets in billions of dollars for the three major cinematic areas of the world are similar $10.9 U.S./Canada $10.9 Europe, Middle East & Africa $11.1 Asia Pacific $3.0 Latin America The total market does not reflect the 12 fold increase in 3D digital screens in Asia and Pacific. This will represent the top grossing films. 2013 3D Digital Screens 15,782 Northern America 15,813 Europe, the Middle East and Africa 17,726 Asia Pacific 3,748 Latin America 53,069 Total 2009 3D Digital Screens 3,548 U.S./Canada 3,487 Europe, the Middle East and Africa 1,584 Asia Pacific 362 Latin America 8,981 Total China with a $3.6 billion in tickets will probably not surpass Northern America $10.9 billion for another decade, but the big CGI films will all have to please the Chinese censors to make the list of 34 films. Lucy with a $40 million production budget has just made $44 MILLION domestically in three days. But it is not clear if the Chinese censors would permit this kind of film into their country. |
June 28th, 2015 at 3:54:38 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | I finally saw the fourth Transformers movie.I didn't realize that they had battle scenes in both Chicago and Hong Kong. They also mixed in some Mandarin and Cantonese dialogue. This storyline where the middle aged American falls either in love or lust with the beautiful Chinese woman is getting a little old. It just feels like pandering. But given the amount of money involved, I suppose pandering is to be expected. Between Ted and Transformers Mark Wahlberg should just have the money truck drive up to his mansion.
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June 28th, 2015 at 12:52:10 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
It bored the crap out of me. Blue screen acting always does. Like Gravity. Half or more of that movie was made in front of a blue screen and it drove Sandra Bullock nuts. They had to do some scenes 50 and 60 times because she had nothing to act against. Same with Transformers. Cardboard acting. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |