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December 22nd, 2024 at 2:37:22 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: Evenbob
In years past you talked way too much about being in college in the late 1960s which would put you at your late seventies now. Mid to late seventies. When you're going to dispense crap you really have to keep it straight or you contradict yourself like you're doing now. I believe you graduated from college right around 1970. You do the math.


Again...LOL@U

Wrong, wrong, wrong...I was not in college during the late sixties; I may be an asshole but i am not a liar.
December 22nd, 2024 at 4:19:53 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: DRich
I don't even know what an oil boiler heating system is or what a c-wire is.


It means I do not have central AC and my heating system is hot water through radiators in each room in my house. It means the thermostat has only two wires that complete a switch when the t-stat calls for heat. The wires do not carry any power to power the t-stat. My current t-stats need batteries to power the display and for the programming. So in order to power a Nest or smart t-stat I need to either run a C wire (which carries power only) to each t-stat in the house which is expensive and messy b/c I have to cut into walls on two stories or use something like a Google Nest Power Adapter.
December 22nd, 2024 at 5:52:46 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: GenoDRPh
It means I do not have central AC and my heating system is hot water through radiators in each room in my house. It means the thermostat has only two wires that complete a switch when the t-stat calls for heat. The wires do not carry any power to power the t-stat. My current t-stats need batteries to power the display and for the programming. So in order to power a Nest or smart t-stat I need to either run a C wire (which carries power only) to each t-stat in the house which is expensive and messy b/c I have to cut into walls on two stories or use something like a Google Nest Power Adapter.


The house I lived in in college had radiator heat but I don't know that I ever saw the furnace.

Would something like this work for you?

https://lp.sensi.copeland.com/sensi_no-cwire/
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
December 24th, 2024 at 7:01:08 AM permalink
rxwine
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The Swedish Torch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqTxWiW8x9o
"Facts are whatever I say they are." - Trump
January 2nd, 2025 at 7:07:35 AM permalink
rxwine
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The terror truck attack brought to my attention something I didn't know about. Apps for private car rental. So, found an instructional video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iwd7WYzZYA
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January 3rd, 2025 at 7:00:00 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: DRich
The house I lived in in college had radiator heat but I don't know that I ever saw the furnace.

Would something like this work for you?

https://lp.sensi.copeland.com/sensi_no-cwire/


No matter which smart thermometer I install, I still need a way to deliver power to the smart electronics. The 2 signal wires are just that-signal wires attached to a switch that is the thermostat.
January 3rd, 2025 at 7:00:55 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Many years ago, the doorbell chime in this house started fritzing out, so my older brother disconnected it with the intention of fixing it...sometime. Well, almost 30 years later I’m finally getting around to it. My younger brother is an electrician and one day recently when he was over I asked him to explain doorbell wiring to me. So he explained what each wire does, how to connect the chime to the transformer attached to the breaker panel and the front and rear doorbell buttons. He actually got rather annoyed with my questions so I stopped bugging him and figured the rest out on my own. I search high and low for a doorbell chime that could accommodate both a front and rear alert that also was stylish enough to fit in to a house built in the 50s. I could find one in my price range, so I bought a kit at eh local Big Box store. Door chime, 2 switches and a 16V 10VA transformer. In anticipation of upgrading at some point to a smart doorbell, I purchased a 16V 30VA transformer. After a meticulous, if not harrowing, adventure inside the breaker panel trying desperately NOT touch the 240V, 3 phase 100 amp lugs coming into the house, I replaced the existing 10 VA transformer with a 30 VA one, to provide adequate power to the future smart doorbells. Next was the chime box. Went in easily enough, although I found I had to shim it out from wall by a few mm to provide enough room for the wires. Then was the doorbell buttons. The front doorbell button was old and corroded and did not work. No problem, since the kit contained 2 new ones. The wires for the front one were cut very short. Luckily, I have a spool of 18/2 gauge wire. A foot or so of wire and a few wire nuts for a splice and new installation went easy. The rear doorbell had the same problem, but was more easily fixed as I could access it from the front and the rear, since the rear was unfinished. However, the previous doorbell left a rather large bore hole since it set into the exterior wall, and not flush mounted. So after pondering what to do, I just filled the hole with wood putty, sanded it down, painted it fished the wire through and wired the button. Now I have a working doorbell and 2 new switches that even light up. A $30 kit and a $30 transformer with some supplies I had laying around saved me a $500 electrician installation visit. I don’t think I like the look of the buttons though. So I think I’ll replace them with something a bit more stylish and befitting an older home.
January 4th, 2025 at 5:24:21 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: GenoDRPh
No matter which smart thermometer I install, I still need a way to deliver power to the smart electronics. The 2 signal wires are just that-signal wires attached to a switch that is the thermostat.


I believe the no c-wire thermostats run on batteries. Of course, I have no idea how often those batteries need to be changed.
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January 4th, 2025 at 7:54:26 AM permalink
rxwine
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I really like the design process for this "Cat Sauna" Particularly the "mold" process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io1xqS2i3ZE&t=1s
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January 4th, 2025 at 8:11:24 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: DRich
I believe the no c-wire thermostats run on batteries. Of course, I have no idea how often those batteries need to be changed.


And change the batteries every once to two months? No thank you. Either hard wired and hard powered with an adapter, or leave the status quo. Unless of course, the power company wants to rewire my house for free.
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