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Quote: Gandler

Here is what happens when social conservative ideologies get followed:


https://nationalfile.com/saudi-arabia-executes-maid-who-killed-man-as-he-raped-her/

But, let's not judge other cultures? ....

Yeah let's strong arm them.... if anything I disagree with fellow liberals because Trump is too weak on foriegn policy.....


We are empirically moral superior because we are a secular country.

Exactly what "conservative ideology" is this from? Can you name any conservatives who call for this? We'll wait.

Actually, it is liberals who want to take away the right to defend yourself. Remember Zimmerman who the libs wanted to nail to the wall?

Reality is conservatives warn against islam but liberals defend it.

Quote: AZDuffman

Exactly what "conservative ideology" is this from? Can you name any conservatives who call for this? We'll wait.

Actually, it is liberals who want to take away the right to defend yourself. Remember Zimmerman who the libs wanted to nail to the wall?

Reality is conservatives warn against islam but liberals defend it.

The Saud family. Countless Islamic scholars....
Millions of Muslims (who all call themselves conservative).

Ismanism is conservative.


The reality is both parties are pathetic on the danger of Islam.....

We are not talking about self defense debates, but of overall ideologies..... Zimmerman was already found not guilty, not getting into that again....

Quote: Gandler

The Saud family. Countless Islamic scholars....
Millions of Muslims (who all call themselves conservative).

Ismanism is conservative.

Uh, no. Islam is on a whole different plane than the west.

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The reality is both parties are pathetic on the danger of Islam.....

We are not talking about self defense debates, but of overall ideologies..... Zimmerman was already found not guilty, not getting into that again....

Agree they are missing the danger. The west will soon be lost. But you seem to have some weird belief that conservatives hate women. I am guessing because conservatives do not love abortion?

Generally speaking, conservative women I know are way happier than liberal women. They do not mind acting feminine and appreciate a man who acts masculine. They do not spend their lives angry at the world for being born female. They do not try to be men. And many actually want to be mothers and married to the father of their offspring.

Not looking to debate Zimmerman. Bringing up that you claim it is "conservative" but it is liberals who get upset when an attacker gets attacked and beaten by the defender. Be it the woman in KSA you brought up, be it Zimmerman, or be it any other person who uses force against an attacker.*


*Unless it is a minority defending themselves against a white, then no matter what they were defending against a racist attack.

Quote: AZDuffman

Uh, no. Islam is on a whole different plane than the west.




Agree they are missing the danger. The west will soon be lost. But you seem to have some weird belief that conservatives hate women. I am guessing because conservatives do not love abortion?

Generally speaking, conservative women I know are way happier than liberal women. They do not mind acting feminine and appreciate a man who acts masculine. They do not spend their lives angry at the world for being born female. They do not try to be men. And many actually want to be mothers and married to the father of their offspring.

Not looking to debate Zimmerman. Bringing up that you claim it is "conservative" but it is liberals who get upset when an attacker gets attacked and beaten by the defender. Be it the woman in KSA you brought up, be it Zimmerman, or be it any other person who uses force against an attacker.*


*Unless it is a minority defending themselves against a white, then no matter what they were defending against a racist attack.

I don't blame somebody for defending themselves against an attacker. I have mixed feelings on Zimmerman, does not seem to be a good person, but was probably not guilty of murder.... I would probably agree with you on many of the "BLM muders" that people are raging about. Michael Brown deserved to be shot, 100% comfortable saying that.

I actually agree, I think in general conservative women are more happy. And, men. I tend to get along better with conservative, many liberals have a chip on their shoulder, and try to be bitter about everything.


But, yes Islamism is 100% conservative. This is not controversial, look up "conservative Islam"...... Alsmost all GCC countries are "socially conservative".....

Quote: Gandler

I actually agree, I think in general conservative women are more happy. And, men. I tend to get along better with conservative, many liberals have a chip on their shoulder, and try to be bitter about everything.

That is a thread in itself. Might have been over these many years here. I think that part comes down to what I saw as the best definition of liberal/conservative difference that I ever saw. Being that liberalism is about wanting "equality" however you define it and conservativism more just wanting equal rules and if you do better for some reason well good for you. Of the two, conservatives stand the far better chance of getting what they want as "equality" by many on the left is a 33 way tie for first in the Indy 500. Yet conservatives are called the angry ones by the media. Whatever.

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But, yes Islamism is 100% conservative. This is not controversial, look up "conservative Islam"...... Alsmost all GCC countries are "socially conservative".....

Not really. Islam is about control and against freedom and individuality. That is far more in line with liberal ideals.

Quote: SOOPOO

Probably half the things i do are unhealthy. I don't want the government from preventing me from doing them. The government is free to educate me on the risks of smoking, drinking, drugs, sodomy, etc...... But let me decide.

The government should be free to make sure you don't dick everyone else over with your reckless behavior.

Do you think we should insist people insure that they will be able cover the costs of high risk behavior BEFORE they do the behavior or are you one of those criminal conservatives who think it's okay to engage in high risk behavior without anyone knowing whether you can pay for that potential financial burden you could be setting yourself up for and the rest of society may have to cover for you when you're a quadriplegic, or suffering long term chronic illness? ---One of those criminal conservatives who complain about being forced to carry health insurance, but expect us to tolerate them shouting about being free to do risky behavior without us knowing if they will be able to cover the cost of their behavior? Usually the same ones who BLAME poor people for not having enough money to pay their medical bills but also object to making sure they themselves will cover their extreme costs if they have them while they do that risky behavior?

Note: I'm sure a building full of actuaries could tell you the cost of proper insurance for any of those risky behaviors you want to engage in. I wouldn't want anyone over or under paying for their insurance.

Quote: rxwine

The government should be free to make sure you don't dick everyone else over with your reckless behavior.

Do you think we should insist people insure that they will be able cover the costs of high risk behavior BEFORE they do the behavior or are you one of those criminal conservatives who think it's okay to engage in high risk behavior without anyone knowing whether you can pay for potential financial burden you could be setting yourself up for and the rest of society may have to cover for you when you're a quadriplegic, or suffering long term chronic illness? ---One of those criminal conservatives who complain about being forced to carry health insurance, but expect us to tolerate them shouting about being free to do risky behavior without us knowing if they will be able to cover the cost of their behavior? Usually the same ones who BLAME poor people for not having enough money to pay their medical bills but also object to making sure they themselves will cover their extreme costs if they have them while they do that risky behavior?

Note: I'm sure a building full of actuaries could tell you the cost of proper insurance for any of those risky behaviors you want to engage in. I wouldn't want anyone over or under paying for their insurance.

If there was universal coverage, it would not be an issue.

But, high risk behavior does mean higher insurance in almost all cases, that is why you answer all of those questions about health history, tobacco use, alcohol use, etc....

Elder at anti-LGBTQ church arrested after soliciting prostitutes on gay hook-up app
https://deadstate.org/elder-at-anti-lgbtq-church-arrested-after-soliciting-prostitutes-on-gay-hook-up-app/?fbclid=IwAR3rEPa9K3YpCQ6GvqIzSKqYksqLFTdy098cYXNMTwoZZlztWvsmfw_v3PY

These type of stories make me suspicious of the anti-gay members on this board. Seems many of those in the closet are anti-gay conservatives. Weird.

Quote: terapined

board. many of those in the closet are anti-gay conservatives. Weird.

Why are you so terrified of Gay men.

Quote: terapined

Elder at anti-LGBTQ church arrested after soliciting prostitutes on gay hook-up app
https://deadstate.org/elder-at-anti-lgbtq-church-arrested-after-soliciting-prostitutes-on-gay-hook-up-app/?fbclid=IwAR3rEPa9K3YpCQ6GvqIzSKqYksqLFTdy098cYXNMTwoZZlztWvsmfw_v3PY

These type of stories make me suspicious of the anti-gay members on this board. Seems many of those in the closet are anti-gay conservatives. Weird.

It has been said before, but there is a strong correlation between extreme anti-gay people and gay activity.

Look at the Catholic Church for an easy example...