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September 15th, 2021 at 7:00:47 AM permalink
rxwine
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A covid designated patient can't just be stuck in a bed around non-covid patients, so it must be interesting fraud, with all space problems created by such a practice.

Showing something could happen or did happen on a small scale does not prove massive fraud.
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September 15th, 2021 at 7:32:07 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
A covid designated patient can't just be stuck in a bed around non-covid patients, so it must be interesting fraud, with all space problems created by such a practice.

Showing something could happen or did happen on a small scale does not prove massive fraud.


Flu deaths have fallen to virtually none (700). I will give you that the number of flu cases has likely fallen partially because of masks and isolation. I also am sure that when someone has the flu and dies it will be classified as a Covid death most of the time. Remember that the hospitals will treat both diseases the same and most flu deaths are also breathing problem deaths.

"The U.S. saw about 700 deaths from influenza during the 2020–2021 season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there were approximately 22,000 U.S. deaths in the prior season and 34,000 deaths two seasons ago."
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September 15th, 2021 at 7:43:12 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: kenarman
Flu deaths have fallen to virtually none (700). I will give you that the number of flu cases has likely fallen partially because of masks and isolation. I also am sure that when someone has the flu and dies it will be classified as a Covid death most of the time. Remember that the hospitals will treat both diseases the same and most flu deaths are also breathing problem deaths.

"The U.S. saw about 700 deaths from influenza during the 2020–2021 season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there were approximately 22,000 U.S. deaths in the prior season and 34,000 deaths two seasons ago."


I'm not sure, but I don't think hospital test for covid is going to be positive if there is a flu virus. And vice versa. I'm guessing though.
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September 15th, 2021 at 7:48:32 AM permalink
rxwine
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Just for example, if flu test worked for covid, there would have been no need to develop a separate one for covid.
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September 15th, 2021 at 7:49:45 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
I'm not sure, but I don't think hospital test for covid is going to be positive if there is a flu virus. And vice versa. I'm guessing though.


You error is that they have never tested for flu in the hospitals on a large scale but just went by symptoms. They also don't always test for Covid once you are in the hospital and sick with Covid like symptoms which are the same symptoms as the flu.
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September 15th, 2021 at 7:58:14 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: kenarman
You error is that they have never tested for flu in the hospitals on a large scale but just went by symptoms. They also don't always test for Covid once you are in the hospital and sick with Covid like symptoms which are the same symptoms as the flu.


I know they don't bother unless you're sick enough with the flu before this year. But right now, they need to specifically test everyone for covid, to separate out the disease from non-covid so they don't put those patients together. Likewise they don't want to spread another virus among their covid patients either. There are people who occasionally come in with rare viruses.
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September 15th, 2021 at 10:04:32 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: kenarman


"The U.S. saw about 700 deaths from influenza during the 2020–2021 season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there were approximately 22,000 U.S. deaths in the prior season and 34,000 deaths two seasons ago."


Most of the flu deaths we're counted as covid deaths. Hospitals get $13,000 from the government for every covid death, at least they were last year. There was like a 100 billion dollar government slush fund set up for this. Doctors have to make those Mercedes payment somehow. You can bet your bottom dollar that whatever numbers you see for covid are totally wrong because nothing is being counted correctly. There are far far more people that have covid and got better and far fewer people that actually died from covid then we will ever know.
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September 15th, 2021 at 10:22:24 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Interesting, thanks for the info.
September 15th, 2021 at 11:07:13 AM permalink
ams288
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I thought this was interesting:

Quote:
US vaccinated by religion via new Pew poll:

90% atheist
86% Hispanic Catholic
84% agnostic
79% White Catholic
73% White mainline protestant
70% Black protestant
57% White evangelical protestant


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September 15th, 2021 at 11:21:24 AM permalink
missedhervee
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I am intrigued by the notion of anti-vaxxers applying for a "religious exemption."

Are there ANY religions whose doctrines prohibit getting a vaccination?

If not, what arguments are being made to support such a claim?