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February 16th, 2023 at 7:43:51 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: DoubleGold
I think those that choose not to get vaccinated are generally more conservative and are not generally risk-takers.


Used to be anti-vaxxers were mainly hippy libbies (Jenny McCarthy types).

I don’t care if they’re left or right. All scum.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
February 16th, 2023 at 7:58:17 AM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Quote: ams288
Used to be anti-vaxxers were mainly hippy libbies (Jenny McCarthy types).

I don’t care if they’re left or right. All scum.



I don't think it's IQ related nor related to a relatively clear conscience.

But possible.
February 16th, 2023 at 12:00:24 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
Those who chose to not get vaccinated are unable (or unwilling) to understand what a risk/benefit ratio is. You can post as much gobbledegook as you want. I will repeat this simple fact.

I am NOT saying there is no risk to being vaccinated. But it is 100% clear that the benefit of being vaccinated FAR exceeds the risk. Of that there is NO DOUBT.


He probably needs a Physicians Desk Reference, so he has so much more then vaccines to save us from. I think drugs are one of the few things that manufactures are required to put a host of unwanted outcomes on, even as they sell them. The pharmaceutical company can report deaths due to whatever drug they have come up with right up front in their stats on it. How many products does DG use or buy where that isn't required that he doesn't complain about?

Some people will go ahead and use even high risk drugs because the risk/benift seems worth it.. I doubt if Pfizer or Moderna need all the headaches of hiding results purposely when they can sell products with the risks clearly stated as they discover them.
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February 16th, 2023 at 12:31:48 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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These documents will do for starters.

No Physician's Desk Reference required.

That'll keep a person busy if already taken the jabs (placebos don't count).

If not (pure blood), I'd just wait to see what the researchers come up with.

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Pfizer’s Documents

https://phmpt.org/multiple-file-downloads/

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February 16th, 2023 at 12:35:43 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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For a list of docs and for a list of professionals belonging to the group.

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This nonprofit, made up of public health professionals, medical professionals, scientists, and journalists exists solely to obtain and disseminate the data relied upon by the FDA to license COVID-19 vaccines. The organization takes no position on the data other than that it should be made publicly available to allow independent experts to conduct their own review and analyses. Any data received will be made public on this website.

Four days after the Pfizer vaccine was approved for ages 16+, we submitted a Freedom of Information Act Request to the FDA for all of the data within Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine biological product file. We have now sued the FDA for not releasing the data. Click below for court documents and for productions of Pfizer’s documents from the FDA.

https://phmpt.org/

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February 16th, 2023 at 1:29:44 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: ams288
Used to be anti-vaxxers were mainly hippy libbies (Jenny McCarthy types).

I don’t care if they’re left or right. All scum.

Yup
Scum of the earth
Especially if you work in a pharmacy

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-wanted-covid-booster-flying-183627444.html
Man wanted a COVID booster before flying abroad. A Rite Aid pharmacist canceled his shot
After a brief back-and-forth, the pharmacist confirmed that she was a “conscientious objector,” someone who, according to the National Library of Medicine, objects to vaccination against contagious diseases based on religious, moral or philosophical reasons.
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
February 16th, 2023 at 2:23:11 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22938
Quote: DoubleGold
For a list of docs and for a list of professionals belonging to the group.

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This nonprofit, made up of public health professionals, medical professionals, scientists, and journalists exists solely to obtain and disseminate the data relied upon by the FDA to license COVID-19 vaccines. The organization takes no position on the data other than that it should be made publicly available to allow independent experts to conduct their own review and analyses. Any data received will be made public on this website.

Four days after the Pfizer vaccine was approved for ages 16+, we submitted a Freedom of Information Act Request to the FDA for all of the data within Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine biological product file. We have now sued the FDA for not releasing the data. Click below for court documents and for productions of Pfizer’s documents from the FDA.

https://phmpt.org/

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I’ve got no problem with that. It might seem nefarious that the FDA can’t just publish everything, but since they are dealing a lot with the approval of private company products, there is likely a need to protect proprietary information that companies spent money on research that they don’t want to just give away to their competitors. I mean some people don’t want the FDA to put GMO products on the shelf without a label these days. So, the FDA has to do more than make sure it’s edible and tasty.
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February 16th, 2023 at 2:40:13 PM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Quote: rxwine
I’ve got no problem with that. It might seem nefarious that the FDA can’t just publish everything, but since they are dealing a lot with the approval of private company products, there is likely a need to protect proprietary information that companies spent money on research that they don’t want to just give away to their competitors. I mean some people don’t want the FDA to put GMO products on the shelf without a label these days. So, the FDA has to do more than make sure it’s edible and tasty.



I've read some commentary of the contents.

It's pretty scary.

I don't feel comfortable posting much of it right now and here.

But you could find what I'm referring to by searching for some related words, depending on your browser and settings.

The commentary likely won't be on any MSM sites, so would have to go outside that realm.

It may not be the easiest thing to do unless you're experienced.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:03:29 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 22938
Quote: DoubleGold
I've read some commentary of the contents.

It's pretty scary.

I don't feel comfortable posting much of it right now and here.

But you could find what I'm referring to by searching for some related words, depending on your browser and settings.

The commentary likely won't be on any MSM sites, so would have to go outside that realm.

It may not be the easiest thing to do unless you're experienced.



How many aborted babies does it take to make one vaccine? I thought it only took three.
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February 16th, 2023 at 4:17:46 PM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Posts: 4241
Quote: rxwine
How many aborted babies does it take to make one vaccine? I thought it only took three.



Idaho is trying to outlaw it right now to administer.

It's serious stuff.

The evidence is rolling in slowly.