Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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November 4th, 2020 at 7:29:06 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: rxwine
I don't think most of the administrative staff around Trump is going hole up in the White House. No chance at all Pence will hole up with him.

Much as I think McConnell is a total toady stooge, I don't think he would support it either.

Just my opinion though.


Sane Republicans are already running and bashing him for his comments.

They know he is a sinking ship and need to regain their party. I think moderate Democrats are secretly happy that he is going to be gone. If he runs in the next Republican primary it will be odd indeed.
November 4th, 2020 at 8:35:28 PM permalink
Wizard
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Just out of curiosity, is there one Trumper here who will say Trump lost fair and square and congratulate the winner? I'd lay long odds on the "no."
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November 5th, 2020 at 3:05:14 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Tripdufan
Lol

I’m pretty disappointed Trumpism didn’t die the miserable death it deserved. But it’s a step in the right direction.

Now that Trump and his lack of leadership on Covid is most likely out of the way, there’s a chance that Americans can unite in our fight against Covid. It’s disappointing we didn’t take the Senate, but in optimistic we can begin working together to get Corona under control. What’s clear is that our approach has NOT been working.


What, exactly, are you wanting in the fight against the china virus that Trump has not done? I keep hearing Biden supporters run off a the mouth like this but never any answers.

Biden is in the process of stealing an election via ballot stuffing, so did he put as much effort into a china virus plan?
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November 5th, 2020 at 3:08:46 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
Just out of curiosity, is there one Trumper here who will say Trump lost fair and square and congratulate the winner? I'd lay long odds on the "no."


I won't. We said months ago there would be this kind of problem with mail-in ballots.

Why were the mail-in ballots not counted before the polls close? Why are mail-in ballots not received the day before the election not thrown in the trash where they belong? And why were there more votes in WI than there are voters?

Why did the GOP led states manage to get it done clean.

Too many questions. It is not the first POTUS election with fraud in the USA.
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November 5th, 2020 at 3:37:33 AM permalink
Aussie
Member since: May 10, 2016
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If your guesses (yes they are guesses) are correct then we can expect to see the courts rule in Trump’s favour right?
November 5th, 2020 at 4:14:47 AM permalink
Shrek
Member since: Aug 13, 2019
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Quote: AZDuffman
I won't. We said months ago there would be this kind of problem with mail-in ballots.

Why were the mail-in ballots not counted before the polls close? Why are mail-in ballots not received the day before the election not thrown in the trash where they belong? And why were there more votes in WI than there are voters?
Yep, lots of shenanigans going on in libbie run counties!!


Arnold Snyder (yes the blackjack guy!) has been doing some great news gathering. He wrote:
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Trump won Antrim County, Michigan by 30 points in 2016. Yet vote counts with 98% of the vote supposedly in for the county showed Biden ahead of Trump 29 points. This is so impossible even DNC-controlled media started calling it out. Now the county is claiming it was a software error. The same software is used in 33 other Michigan counties.
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Over 500 mail in ballots for Trump have reportedly been found dumped at the Marysville Precinct in St. Clair County, Michigan.

A precinct clerk has told county Republican officials that the ballots were simply misplaced and accidentally not included in the results.

Tell me that don't look fishy!!
November 5th, 2020 at 5:23:07 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: AZDuffman
Why are mail-in ballots not received the day before the election not thrown in the trash where they belong?


Because they were mailed in before the election as verified by the postmark.

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And why were there more votes in WI than there are voters?


What is your evidence of this?

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Why did the GOP led states manage to get it done clean.


What party leads Georgia and North Carolina? Are they finished counting yet?
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November 5th, 2020 at 5:55:07 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Wizard
Because they were mailed in before the election as verified by the postmark.


Should not matter. Standard should be they have to arrive day before the election. If people can do it to pay their Visa bill they can manage it for a ballot. They should start counting them on the morning of Election Day.


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What is your evidence of this?


I have seen it reported. Also, WI allows same-day registration, a practice that needs to be banned as it allows much potential for fraud.

Has anyone run the math and the probability that X extra votes will be picked up in the last Y percent of count?


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What party leads Georgia and North Carolina? Are they finished counting yet?


Have not seen them. And it is still a problem no matter who runs them.
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November 5th, 2020 at 6:18:29 AM permalink
gamerfreak
Member since: Feb 19, 2018
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Quote: AZDuffman
Should not matter. Standard should be they have to arrive day before the election. If people can do it to pay their Visa bill they can manage it for a ballot. They should start counting them on the morning of Election Day.

I have seen it reported. Also, WI allows same-day registration, a practice that needs to be banned as it allows much potential for fraud.

Has anyone run the math and the probability that X extra votes will be picked up in the last Y percent of count?

Have not seen them. And it is still a problem no matter who runs them.

None of this is illegal. The constitution gives states a tremendous amount of discretion in how they run their elections. “The” election is more like 51 individual elections where the states can operate them pretty much however they like.

I think it’s hilarious you suddenly want the federal government to swoop in and regulate something that the constitution very very clearly gives states the power to decide.
November 5th, 2020 at 6:46:39 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: AZDuffman
What, exactly, are you wanting in the fight against the china virus that Trump has not done? I keep hearing Biden supporters run off a the mouth like this but never any answers.

Biden is in the process of stealing an election via ballot stuffing, so did he put as much effort into a china virus plan?


They wanted him to tell all Americans to wear masks. And for him to wear them as a positive example. There may be a fringe actor like you who does not believe masks decrease the spread, but the vast majority of Americans believe they help. And they want their President to set the proper example.