Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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November 5th, 2020 at 6:46:14 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Tripdufan
I just watched the President of the United States claim that democrats cheated to help republicans win every election across the board except his.

Only a damned moron could continue believing this man. F**king disgraceful and pathetic...and dangerous. I know Trump is not a religious man, but if there's a hell, I hope he burns in it.


I agree, the guy acts like a moron. Most of the population are morons. Why do you think so many people vote for him?
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
November 5th, 2020 at 7:18:44 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: DRich
I agree, the guy acts like a moron. Most of the population are morons. Why do you think so many people vote for him?

Trump should just let Pence take over for the next 6 weeks
He's a boy scout
Smooth transition
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November 5th, 2020 at 7:20:32 PM permalink
JCW09
Member since: Aug 27, 2018
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If you stipulate that AZ Senate race goes to Kelly (Dem)
NC goes to Tillis (Rep)
AK goes to Sullivan (Rep)
Does that leave The Senate at 50-48 GOP with the two GA run off races to decide the Senate majority?
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November 5th, 2020 at 7:58:30 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: reno
Why didn't the cheating Dems flip any US Senate seats (besides Colorado)? Susan Collins was trailing in the polls all summer + fall, but the cheating Dems didn't remove her, even though the cheating Dems got most of Maine's electoral college to vote for Biden? Your argument is that the cheating Dems failed to save Doug Jones seat in the US Senate?

Your argument is that the Dems cheated to install Biden, but deliberately left GOP in control of the US Senate thereby allowing McConnell to undermine Biden's entire agenda. Your argument is that the Dems cheated to install Biden, but didn't flip any GOP state legislatures to prevent future gerrymandering.

When the conspiracy theory is more convoluted than the official story, that's a red flag that the conspiracy theory is dumb. Trump lost fairly, and the Wizard is correct: you Trump voters don't have enough integrity to acknowledge the truth.


Geez Reno.... they are saying that the Dems cheated as much as they could. Not that they were able to cheat successfully in each and every election. If a Dem Senate candidate was going to lose by 4% no one said they would be able to cheat that much.

It will be interesting if we ever see ‘evidence’ of all this cheating.... or just take Trump’s word for it....
November 5th, 2020 at 10:48:11 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 21195
Quote: reno
If there was real fraud, Bill Barr & the FBI would be launching investigations IMMEDIATELY.

But Bill Barr and Chris Wray are completely silent. Are they incompetent? Or just cowards?


The same FBI that gave Hillary a free pass on her server and did not quash the fake dossier?
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November 6th, 2020 at 12:32:35 AM permalink
Shrek
Member since: Aug 13, 2019
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Posts: 1855
Quote: SOOPOO
Geez Reno.... they are saying that the Dems cheated as much as they could. Not that they were able to cheat successfully in each and every election.

Haha, thanks for pointing out his idiotic argument.
And thank god I already blocked his ass. 😎
November 6th, 2020 at 2:41:09 AM permalink
Pacomartin
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 12569
If Biden wins NV as expected, and Trump wins PA, GA, NC, and AK then the final tally will be 270 Biden, 268 Trump.

All the single faithless Democratic elector has to do is to refuse to cast his vote. That will mean neither candidate gets a majority and it throws it into a contingent election where each state gets one vote (and DC gets none) which almost certainly means a win for Trump.

What if some non-government person offers $10 million to any Democratic elector from GA, PA, IL, NY, RI, or NJ where there is no law about faithless electors.
This mysterious donor would not be paying for a changed vote, just not to fill out a ballot. Would that be illegal?
November 6th, 2020 at 3:43:07 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 5250
https://www.wtoc.com/2020/11/05/chatham-co-has-highest-amount-outstanding-ballots-georgia/

My county finished counting most mail in ballots last night. GA is now leaning blue, but its tight with 99% reporting and not called yet.

If we turned GA blue against Trump this would be epic. With only mail-ins left to count in mostly dense counties (cities) it is quite possible GA will end up blue.
November 6th, 2020 at 7:29:44 AM permalink
Wizard
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Member since: Oct 23, 2012
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Quote: AZDuffman
But actually, it is.

Go back to my Visa card example. If your payment is late it is late. You cannot tell them "but I mailed it days ago!"

It is all grown-ups voting. If the standard is that it has to be there a certain date then that is the standard. Votes need to be counted in an efficient manner. Them getting there after the deadline is simply not acceptable.


Visa can make whatever rules they wish, subject to some minimal regulation.

Likewise, I think some states went by the postmark rule and some went by the "must be in by" rule. Either is fine, as long as the rules are known to the voters. Let each state set their own rules.

Since when are conservatives against states' rights?
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November 6th, 2020 at 7:34:00 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Wizard
Visa can make whatever rules they wish, subject to some minimal regulation.

Likewise, I think some states went by the postmark rule and some went by the "must be in by" rule. Either is fine, as long as the rules are known to the voters. Let each state set their own rules.

Since when are conservatives against states' rights?


Wanting ballots in before the deadline has nothing to do with states rights, has to do with basic security.

Maybe in an election or two we start using blockchain which would help eliminate this kind of thing.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength