Israeli conflict

Quote: GenoDRPh

What does my home improvement schedule have to do with any thing? You argue best when you argue my point.

More bottom line. You have shown yourself to be a xenophobic, White Christian Nationalist racist through and through, Scott.

I’m not even Christian, but good try. It’s not your home improvement. It’s the home improvement of a neighbor of Mr. Hezbollah, or Mr. Hamas. If you define racist as treating everyone equally, without prejudice, then I’ll agree that’s me.

Go have a drink with some of your Scottish visitors friends before the beer runs out.

Interesting to me about Truman's decision to recognize Israel, otherwise a plea/warning to the next Dim President.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/02/pro-israel-lobby-presidents .

as for the trend I expect, that Jewish voters will abandon the Dims, it is proceeding but not there yet, and may never reach 50-50 even

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... exit polls from Democratic, Republican, and nonpartisan sources suggest that Jewish voters backed Biden by 42% in 2020. Our average of exit polling in 2024 finds a 36% margin in favor of Harris — suggesting a swing of R+6% between 2020 and 2024

https://split-ticket.org/2025/02/18/the-jewish-american-vote/ . I think 42% and 36% 'margins' means the margin of support, not the actual percent support

Quote: odiousgambit

Interesting to me about Truman's decision to recognize Israel, otherwise a plea/warning to the next Dim President.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/02/pro-israel-lobby-presidents .

as for the trend I expect, that Jewish voters will abandon the Dims, it is proceeding but not there yet, and may never reach 50-50 even


https://split-ticket.org/2025/02/18/the-jewish-american-vote/ . I think 42% and 36% 'margins' means the margin of support, not the actual percent support

What country or countries does your lineage trace back to?

I trace back to three, and don't have an allegiance to any of them. Even though I have relatives in those places. Don't vote to favor any of them for reasons of some connection.

Quote: rxwine

What country or countries does your lineage trace back to?

I'm not Jewish, if that is what you are asking. There were some anti-Jew bigots who were relatives, I tend to try to be the reverse ... at least no bigotry. I'm not obliged to support Israel in any way

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I trace back to three, and don't have an allegiance to any of them. Even though I have relatives in those places. Don't vote to favor any of them for reasons of some connection.

If I had been Truman, I might have listened to Marshall and others and been against recognizing Israel. But now it is fait accompli that Israel exists and I am totally against attempting to undo that by terrorism.* Not to mention our long-standing relationship as allies, that counts for a lot.
The Yahoo Netanyahu is a problem for me, I think he and his ilk also is causing a lot of the drop in support for Israel here

* the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip possibly could by now be taking a different course than terrorism if it were not for Iran, seeing as how every other nearby state has given up constant war with Israel

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