Original Sin?
January 19th, 2022 at 9:23:35 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25685 | Doesn't this about sum it up? ![]() If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 21st, 2022 at 11:52:44 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25685 | Now that the new Space Telescope has pretty much debunked The Big Bang Theory as being totally wrong what does the Catholic Church have to say about this. The Catholic Church loves The Big Bang Theory and has made it part of their religion. Georges Lemaître, Belgian cosmologist, and father of the Big Bang theory, was himself a Catholic priest. This discovery in July is pretty much rocking the world of cosmology. It's keeping scientists up till 3 in the morning worrying that they spent their entire lives basing all their work on a theory that's been debunked. I'd like to know what FrG has to say about this but he never comes here anymore. My theory has always been the universe has been here forever and will always be here and I'm standing by that. What the new telescope is showing us is not a universe with the beginning it's showing us that the universe seems to go on forever. The exact opposite of what they were expecting. No beginning No End no creator. No god. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 22nd, 2022 at 2:49:49 AM permalink | |
Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 2332 |
You better hope that'e true. If you're wrong, you're condemned to suffer eternity in hell. You've gone out of your way to commit the unforgivable sin, hundreds of times on this forum alone. |
August 22nd, 2022 at 3:01:46 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 76 Posts: 12501 |
Yawn You die, you simply cease to exist God is a fantasy Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
August 22nd, 2022 at 9:20:44 AM permalink | |
missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 128 Posts: 3689 |
How can something have always been here, i.e. for an infinite amount of time? Hard to wrap ones noggin around that concept. But yeah, the fundamental problem of existence, at least for me, is just that: "How did the matter and energy in the universe come to exist?" |
August 22nd, 2022 at 1:12:54 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25685 |
LOL. Absolutely everything in science points to the universe being morality neutral. It doesn't give a damn one way or the other. If believing in hell makes you sleep better at night good for you. I happen to think the universe is a little more complicated than that. We are trained to think only in terms of beginnings and endings and not in terms of continuation. The sun goes down so the day is over. What's the truth is daytime on Earth is never over it's going 24 hours a day. It's just convenient for us to think it's over because it's over for us. You can apply this to almost anything. We don't really know if there is a true beginning or end to anything. We see the universe and assume it had to come from somewhere. This assumption might be totally wrong. Thinking this way bothers us because that's not how we were trained to think. I have no problem believing the universe has been here forever because to me it makes perfect sense. I also think I have been here forever in one form or another because that also makes perfect sense. We know that you can't destroy anything all you can do is convert it into something else. What makes us think we are totally destroyed when we die. That makes no sense at all. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 26th, 2023 at 10:27:42 AM permalink | |
DoubleGold Member since: Jan 26, 2023 Threads: 34 Posts: 3404 |
FrGamble, here is what I think the story represents: The Garden represents having access to the Holy Spirit at will. By disobeying (original sin), our ancestors defaulted to not having access to the Holy Spirit at will. But there was one loophole, the future Messiah. ◄ Genesis 3:15 ► The solution to become one again after separation, would be through a virgin female out of a specific genetic line. That genetic line had to be protected for all virgin females. Many misinterpreted this as misogyny. Our ancestors intentionally bred with their cousins. One line would be the ruling line (Y-DNA) and the other the blood line (mtDNA). They didn't know which female it would be out of the blood line. Just that it would be a virgin. Mary, the Mother of Jesus was the one they were waiting for. So Jesus allowed us to have access to the Holy Spirit at will, for he bridged the gap. But it is not default, just possible. The entire Holy Bible is about this separation and the solution. |
April 19th, 2023 at 7:53:30 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 241 Posts: 6108 |
At the risk of hijacking the thread, can you expand on this. A report on 60 Minutes did not draw this conclusion. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
April 19th, 2023 at 11:22:36 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 76 Posts: 12501 |
I'd be interested in this also. Too me that's huge news and I haven't heard anything about this Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
August 9th, 2023 at 6:38:50 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 200 Posts: 20761 |
"Facts are whatever I say they are." - Trump |