Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

June 1st, 2024 at 5:56:19 AM permalink
PotPie
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hundreds of thousands of people have been forced from their homes in Brazil due to flooding and many won't return

from the article:

"For years scientists have warned that climate change would displace millions of people reordering the world's human presence as people searched for safety.

The World Bank has estimated that more than 216 million people could be driven from their homes by sea level rise, flooding, desertification and other effects of warming temperatures.

The Institute for Economics and Peace said the figure could reach 1.2 billion people.

A future characterized by "climate refugees" The European Parliament reported, was coming"


https://archive.ph/uNvV6

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June 1st, 2024 at 6:30:24 AM permalink
rxwine
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If anyone is interested in their location above sea level. Point at a map or enter your address, etc.,

https://elevation.maplogs.com/

Of course, you can be flooded at your particular geographic location due to other factors. Or you may have a house on stilts. or whatever.
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June 1st, 2024 at 7:26:57 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: PotPie
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hundreds of thousands of people have been forced from their homes in Brazil due to flooding and many won't return

from the article:

"For years scientists have warned that climate change would displace millions of people reordering the world's human presence as people searched for safety.

The World Bank has estimated
Really?

Quote:
that more than 216 million people could be driven from their homes by sea level rise, flooding, desertification and other effects of warming temperatures.

The Institute for Economics and Peace said the figure could reach 1.2 billion people.

A future characterized by "climate refugees" The European Parliament reported, was coming"


https://archive.ph/uNvV6


Let's go back to what is wrong with citing weather to prove a theory ...

Doesn't Brazil's weather support the currently favored climate change theory? Well, it could, though scientists, as opposed to journalists, probably aren’t wasting a lot of time analyzing local weather anomalies. To be scientific about it, they couldn’t just go around looking for such, as they wouldn’t know if they are getting the complete picture. How does flooding in Brazil mean more than the the drought in Timbuctoo [if say there is one]? If you haven’t noticed it , there are counter-journalists out there who find these things. Sometimes they find dramatic counter-factuals in the face of predictions made by those cited to be ‘experts’ by other journalists.

Also we know it’s flawed unless we want to bring back the discredited Dialectical method of the Middle Ages [Scholasticism]. This method cites a thesis and then tries to prove it nearly by logic alone, but it also goes out and grabs any evidence it can without weighing it’s scientific value. This kind of reasoning can ‘prove’ astrology is valid, or in modern times might ‘prove’ that autism is caused by vaccination. After all, there was a small study somewhere that indicated just that for autism. This mistake is a well-known form of cherry picking error, an often unconsciously flawed citing of some data that actually turns out to be the ‘clumping’ effect due to random sorting.

The Scientific Method has won out over the Dialectical of Medieval times. For this, an hypothesis is also formed, but to determine it’s validity, experiments are conducted, the validity is not confirmed by logic alone. Ideally, a control is set up for comparison, etc. If you don’t adhere to these things, it can seem like you are being scientific, because you are maybe being logical as far as it goes. Scientists can fall into these traps, and I hate to say it, but notably the blowhard types do.

So we are looking at the Brazilian weather, or maybe the Texas big freeze of a while ago, maybe the dramatic ending of the California drought. It seems like we are being scientific, because it seems logical that this weather proves something one way or the other [and it certainly can be the other]. Good scientists, though, know this is not the best thing at their disposal, and why I’m saying they can’t value it very much.



Vaccines and Autism

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccines-and-other-conditions/vaccines-autism

Feb 5, 2024 — Two studies have been cited by those claiming that the MMR vaccine causes autism. Both studies are critically flawed.
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June 1st, 2024 at 7:34:31 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: rxwine
If anyone is interested in their location above sea level. Point at a map or enter your address, etc.,

https://elevation.maplogs.com/

Of course, you can be flooded at your particular geographic location due to other factors. Or you may have a house on stilts. or whatever.


I believe I am about 9ft above sea level.
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June 1st, 2024 at 11:59:46 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
If anyone is interested in their location above sea level. Point at a map or enter your address, etc.,

https://elevation.maplogs.com/

Of course, you can be flooded at your particular geographic location due to other factors. Or you may have a house on stilts. or whatever.


If I flood due to sea level build an ark.
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June 1st, 2024 at 12:45:56 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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does RXwine think this is the ocean rising in Brazil?
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June 1st, 2024 at 3:58:25 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: odiousgambit
does RXwine think this is the ocean rising in Brazil?


Maybe Nebraska?
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June 4th, 2024 at 11:01:16 AM permalink
rxwine
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The world’s biggest solar plant has come online in China, capable of powering a small country with its annual capacity of more than 6 billion kilowatt hours.

The facility in a desert region of the north-west province of Xinjiang covers 200,000 acres – roughly the same area as New York City.
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June 5th, 2024 at 9:25:14 AM permalink
rxwine
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The planet just marked a new milestone, enduring 12 consecutive months of unprecedented heat, according to new data from Copernicus, the European Union’s climate monitoring service.
Every single month from June 2023 to May 2024 was the world’s hottest such month on record, Copernicus data showed.
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June 10th, 2024 at 7:06:08 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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The climate change scam is likely associated with hiding C-19 bio-labs in Ukraine and the 2014 Ukrainian coup by Obama.

Because that's what Putin is after.


The best way to prevent Putin obtaining the proof, is to lower Russia's energy income.

That's why Biden has issued 39 energy regulations and executive orders (really Obama calling the shots).


Both Obama and Biden recently purchased ocean front estates (sea level rising?).

Either they're scammers or just out of the scientific info loop. LOL

Not a good way to sell climate change.

More likely, they're trying to cover-up their bio-lab involvement.


Then John Kerry resigned.

Susan Rice resigned.

They're knee deep in do-do.


And guess who knows about it?

None other than Donald J. Trump.


Trump can stop the war so the inspectors can find the evidence.