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May 26th, 2022 at 5:28:40 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Woe to the police officer on the scene who doesn't run straight into the school upon arrival. But it's been going that way since Columbine.

That's just another poor result of lack of gun control. Sure cops risk their lives. But the choice to perform hero moves like running minimally prepared directly into a building with an armed person inside is above and beyond the call of duty, "to protect and serve". That's why they give out exceptional valor awards to police who do that.

whereas a trained swat team is something different.


Gun control has nothing to do with it. We have gun control.

When cops get to the scene of something like this the first thing the do is establish a perimeter. Then they try to figure out how many gunmen are inside. After that they will use tactics to move. People at the scene who scream for the cops to run in are emotional.

People who go on the news or on internet blogs and complain the cops did not "run in" are being monday morning quarterbacks.
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:31:57 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Gun control has nothing to do with it.


Because it's people with fists who are killing kids with bullets.
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:34:24 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Because it's people with fists who are killing kids with bullets.


How many times does it need to be pointed out that Chicago has the liberal dream of gun control yet is among the most gun violent cities?
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:37:48 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
How many times does it need to be pointed out that Chicago has the liberal dream of gun control yet is among the most gun violent cities?


The same amount of times it is shown where most of those guns come from.
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:41:59 AM permalink
rxwine
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Prisons are full of criminals, but how many shootings occur there?

Point proven. Game over.
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:46:11 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
The same amount of times it is shown where most of those guns come from.


So you are saying criminals do not pay attention to gun control laws?
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:47:10 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Prisons are full of criminals, but how many shootings occur there?

Point proven. Game over.


So you are saying prisons have no killings?

Or are you saying you want to live in a prison atmosphere?
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:49:50 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
So you are saying criminals do not pay attention to gun control laws?


No, I'm saying easy access to guns made possible by red staters who vote for few barriers to purchase makes them easy to purchase for criminals and deranged people.
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May 26th, 2022 at 5:57:10 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
No, I'm saying easy access to guns made possible by red staters who vote for few barriers to purchase makes them easy to purchase for criminals and deranged people.


Also for law abiding people. A good thing.

The guns are not the problem. A violent society that shows low regard for life is the problem. But fixing that takes more guts than calling to ban guns.
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May 26th, 2022 at 6:01:36 AM permalink
rxwine
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If the gunners were smart, they would design the laws to keep guns out of the hands of the deranged and criminals themselves before anyone else decides to do it for them. Instead of just trying to make it easy all around for purchase which is all they seem to be interested in.

But they aren't smart, I guess.
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