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October 2nd, 2017 at 3:35:19 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: FrGamble
I'm sorry but I think statements like Alex Jones said above should be punishable. Free speech doesn't mean you get to make up evil and disgusting things and spout them to ignorant people.


Yes, it absolutely does. There may be consequences such as being liable, but he does have the right to say it.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
October 2nd, 2017 at 3:57:27 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: FrGamble
I'm sorry but I think statements like Alex Jones said above should be punishable. Free speech doesn't mean you get to make up evil and disgusting things and spout them to ignorant people.


If it was up to me we'd go back to FTC requirement for broadcasts to support opposing views on the same show.

The people who hate that idea, I assume have the most reason to fear their crap will be exposed for what it is. Because it doesn't limit speech at all whatever the complaints otherwise are, though it does make an extra requirement.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 4:01:40 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
If it was up to me we'd go back to FTC requirement for broadcasts to support opposing views on the same show.

The people who hate that idea, I assume have the most reason to fear their crap will be exposed for what it is. Because it doesn't limit speech at all whatever the complaints otherwise are, though it does make an extra requirement.


It does limit speech. The idea is a relic of the past, when there were three channels on TV and just as few on talk radio. "News" when slanted did not qualify to be challenged.

You can get all the opposing views you want, if you want.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
October 2nd, 2017 at 4:05:53 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
It does limit speech. The idea is a relic of the past, when there were three channels on TV and just as few on talk radio. "News" when slanted did not qualify to be challenged.

You can get all the opposing views you want, if you want.


What are you afraid of? It's doesn't limit speech.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 4:12:50 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
What are you afraid of? It's doesn't limit speech.


It does. It says you cannot speak without letting someone else speak. That limits free speech. It is an unconstitutional taking of property in the form of airtime. There is no reason for it.

Liberals love the idea as they have not been able to compete in opinionated shows since the rule was lifted in the 1980s. Since they cannot compete they want the competition shut down.

If you want both sides, watch FNC one night and MSNBC the next. Do you do this?
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October 2nd, 2017 at 4:13:01 PM permalink
Dalex64
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I don't see the need to have opposing views on the same show or even on the same station, but I would like to see opinion more clearly identified as such and "facts" having to be backed up with actual evidence.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
October 2nd, 2017 at 4:21:02 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Dalex64
I don't see the need to have opposing views on the same show or even on the same station, but I would like to see opinion more clearly identified as such and "facts" having to be backed up with actual evidence.


I'm convinced you shouldn't let people choose news and opinions like potato chips vs good food. Because you get a junk society.

I think we see the results of it.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 4:23:33 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
I'm convinced you shouldn't let people choose news and opinions like potato chips vs good food. Because you get a junk society.

I think we see the results of it.


Heck, lets just have one channel like they do in N Korea. Make sure everyone got their mind right!
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
October 2nd, 2017 at 4:25:09 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
It does. It says you cannot speak without letting someone else speak. That limits free speech. It is an unconstitutional taking of property in the form of airtime. There is no reason for it.

Liberals love the idea as they have not been able to compete in opinionated shows since the rule was lifted in the 1980s. Since they cannot compete they want the competition shut down.



That's bulllshit because we know people gravitate towards enjoyment vs. substance much of the time. Like the cocaine using monkeys. Just keep pushing the handle that delivers the drug.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 4:25:49 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Heck, lets just have one channel like they do in N Korea. Make sure everyone got their mind right!


Nope, that's the only thing worse than what we do now. One approved opinion.
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