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December 21st, 2017 at 10:05:45 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: kenarman
ISo all that happens when he releases his financial information is that a biased media finds 100's of items they likely don't understand to excite the haters with who likely understand business even less than the reporters. .


So, you're saying in the same vein, Democrats should hide everything from the Republicans because the Republicans will spin it badly on FOX, WSJ , Limbaugh etc.,

Pretty sure, that's a worse idea for both parties even though that's exactly what happens. That's how it works.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
December 21st, 2017 at 10:10:26 AM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: terapined
Oh
Were you making the same complaints against the Fox and tea party when Obama was President?

You either earn the respect of country and the planet
or
Go on twitter with childlike temper tantrums

Trump has only himself to blame for all the haters. He's a moron
The planet is not looking to the American people on how to view Trump
The Planet is also reading Trump tweets and agreeing with the American Trump haters
Trump has a direct unfiltered communication line to the entire planet. That is what is hurting Trump. That is how Trump has lost the respect the planet


You still don't get it. My point is not that Trump is not a moron it is that the Trump haters have joined him in the gutter and look like morons too. This doubles the amount of respect that the US is losing in the world.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 21st, 2017 at 10:31:52 AM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: kenarman
..... I have posted this before BBB the Trump haters really need to take a step back and see how all this hate is playing out internationally, the hating is destroying more of Americas respect in the rest of the world more than anything Trump is doing.


The rest of the world? http://thehill.com/policy/international/366001-un-votes-to-condemn-us-jerusalem-decision?rnd=1513876807 128 countries rebuke Trumps plan to recognize Jerusalem as Israels capitol.

"Trump haters really need to take a step back and see how all this hate is playing out internationally" hilarious, they won't know what to think until they see it on facebook
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
December 21st, 2017 at 11:36:19 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
You still don't get it. My point is not that Trump is not a moron it is that the Trump haters have joined him in the gutter and look like morons too. This doubles the amount of respect that the US is losing in the world.


No I dont get it
What do you consider the gutter?
Be specific.
SNL?
They have been making fun of Presidents for decades. Its their traditional business model to get eyeballs and therefore make money
I remember laughing at Chevy Chase acting like Ford falling down.

Trump is the reason the planet has lost respect for the USA
Some guy in outer Mongolia can check Trumps twitter feed and think to himself what a moron and therefore he has no respect for the USA
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
December 21st, 2017 at 1:43:30 PM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Didn't know you were Canadian.

From a worldview, it's my understanding that the fact 2/3 of Americans repudiate Trump is the only thing giving them hope.

Inciting war with NK.
Rejecting Paris Accords.
Dumping NATO and rebuking other nations.
Cozying up to Putin.
Reneging or withdrawing from trade agreements.
Discrediting the State Department.
Discrediting our foreign operatives and intl police forces.
Passing foreign Intel in the Oval Office and via Twitter to common enemies.
Pushing the radical Israeli agenda to the detriment of the Middle East.

You don't seriously think Americans should be supporting and defending this treasonous moron to the rest of the world, do you? Just because he's American? The rest of the world is hoping we have the sense and the strength to stage an internal coup and get this madman out of office before he starts WWIII.
Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has
December 21st, 2017 at 2:43:52 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: beachbumbabs
Didn't know you were Canadian.

From a worldview, it's my understanding that the fact 2/3 of Americans repudiate Trump is the only thing giving them hope.

Inciting war with NK. Who is inciting who? Previous methods haven't worked well either
Rejecting Paris Accords. Possibly with good reason although you chose to not agree
Dumping NATO and rebuking other nations. As a citizen of one of the "deadbeat countries] why should Canada get a free ride
Cozying up to Putin. From your first point you want him to insult Putin and cozy up to NK?
Reneging or withdrawing from trade agreements. It is interesting how this has switched from a left to right issue over the last few years
Discrediting the State Department. So you can call Trumps actions as you see him but he can't be honest as he sees it? [i/]
Discrediting our foreign operatives and intl police forces. Ditto
Passing foreign Intel in the Oval Office and via Twitter to common enemies. The Oval office is fine. Are you so naïve that you don't believe this is how the world works. Governments exchanging information Tit for Tat? Twitter, I only know what he says through the filter of MSM. I never go on Twitter it is just one big pile of stinky doggie poo.
Pushing the radical Israeli agenda to the detriment of the Middle East. This definitely doesn't make the world a safer place. Nothing will solve the problem in the middle east anyway. The Arabs will eventually annihilate Israel it is only a matter of time. We are just fighting the latest Crusade there. The Israelis were given 1/2 of Jerusalem in the original agreement after WWII and the Arabs started a war to prevent it, lots of blame to go around and points of view.


You don't seriously think Americans should be supporting and defending this treasonous moron to the rest of the world, do you? Just because he's American? The rest of the world is hoping we have the sense and the strength to stage an internal coup and get this madman out of office before he starts WWIII.


This illustrates some of what I am trying to point out. Exaggeration by using the 2/3 that is like me saying that it is about 50% when the real number is just about the middle of the 2 percentages. I use RealClearPolitics AVERAGE of all the polls. Do I think that you should support your President? At some level yes. To continually call him down with school yard language is not a good response. Coups are for 3rd world countries not for one of the most powerful countries in the world. That language is what is truly treasonous and gets the bad marks from the rest of the world.

Your other points are addressed above.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 21st, 2017 at 10:57:33 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: kenarman
That language is what is truly treasonous and gets the bad marks from the rest of the world.


The more successful Trump is, the worse
the rhetoric will get. He's tearing down
the socialist empire Obama was trying
to build, Trump will set that cause back
decades. This isn't about Trump, this
is about Hillary losing and no Obama
third socialist term.

I said this all summer before the election
and those here know it. The election
was about anybody but Her and Her
cronies getting in power. Look around,
every day another rock is turned over
and more corruption from them is
exposed. Trump winning was a fluke,
he just came around at the perfect
time. The massive machine Hillary had
behind her, the media, corrupt FBI,
corrupt justice dept, were 100% dependent
on Her winning. Her losing was the biggest
'Uh Oh' moment is the last 100 years of
politics.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 21st, 2017 at 11:31:15 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Evenbob
...Look around,
every day another rock is turned over
and more corruption from them is
exposed.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/prosecutors-ask-fbi-agents-info-uranium-one-deal-n831436?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&__twitter_impression=true

Slick Hillary
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
December 22nd, 2017 at 2:28:18 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/prosecutors-ask-fbi-agents-info-uranium-one-deal-n831436?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&__twitter_impression=true

Slick Hillary


Holy crap, NBC is reporting this? Leftie
NBC? That in itself is huge.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 22nd, 2017 at 8:40:01 AM permalink
Fleastiff
Member since: Oct 27, 2012
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Quote: beachbumbabs
From a worldview, it's my understanding that the fact 2/3 of Americans repudiate Trump is the only thing giving them hope.[/q[ Its become the national pastime.

>Inciting war with NK.
They are aggressive, hostile and the weapons gap is closing. Why let them grow stronger? Look at our Navy's performance lately?

>Rejecting Paris Accords.
Don't know what they are about but Paris, Texas is relevant, Paris, France probably is not.

>Dumping NATO and rebuking other nations.
Might as well dump NATO, no one wants to fund it or fund their own defense.

>Cozying up to Putin.
He is his box.

>Reneging or withdrawing from trade agreements.
Might as well, they were not in our favor to begin with.

>Discrediting the State Department.
I'm sure they deserve it.

>Discrediting our foreign operatives and intl police forces.
What have they done for us?
>Passing foreign Intel in the Oval Office and via Twitter to common enemies.
Heck, when the Prime Minister met with the Ukrainian President, the interpreter was a Russian spy.

>Pushing the radical Israeli agenda to the detriment of the Middle East.
Once Israel got away with the September eleventh attacks,they can get away with anything.

> treasonous moron
I would think more of a buffoon