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January 9th, 2018 at 11:54:33 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Quote: Dalex64
Then I dispute that all of them share or express some of the extreme opinions that you and EvenBob attribute to them as one unified and united group.

I don't know if you consider me part of "The Left" or not, but I'm certainly left of both you and evenbob, and I don't personally believe in or express many of the opinions that you attribute to the group.


Well said. Exactly my experience here, specifically with AZD. Being NOT "the left" as generalized here, AND not agreeing with most of what AZD and EB say still represents a large swath of this country, I daresay a good-sized majority. I've had that conversation several times with him ("she can't possibly be a Republican... "), but I'm borrowing what you said to restate it. Thanks.
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January 9th, 2018 at 12:02:23 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
And I hear liberals quote the way you just quoted all time. Have you not heard the same?

What is it about speaking generally that gets you so upset?


The fact that it is non-specific, too general and all-encompassing, and therefore inaccurate. That's all really.

If instead of "The Left" you guys used words like "some" or "wacko leftists" or "extremists from the left" or "rabbid obama supporters" or something, or even "most from the left" assuming you had some statistic to back it up rather than just your gut feeling, "common sense" or in other words your opinion. "some from the left" will almost always be accurate even without documentation to back it up.

that is why I consistently, as far as I know with the exception of my "generally speaking" post, say things like "some" or "most" and back those up with facts demonstrating and quantifying "some" or "most" etc.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
January 9th, 2018 at 12:07:11 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Back to today's news, Ivanka supports Oprah

Quote: Ivanka
Just saw @Oprah’s empowering & inspiring speech at last night’s #GoldenGlobes,” Ivanka Trump tweeted Monday night, with a link to Oprah Winfrey’s viral speech. “Let’s all come together, women & men, & say #TIMESUP! #United.


and FusionGPS claims that the FBI stated that they already knew independently some of the information provided to them via "the dossier"

one thing about that dossier - first the conservatives hired fusion gps to prevent trump from getting the nomination, then the dems did to continue the research to prevent him from becoming president, of course, and now it seems like the information was given (without permission of fusion gps superiors) to the FBI.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
January 9th, 2018 at 12:22:10 PM permalink
rxwine
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An HOA probably worried about illegal aliens.

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Fox 40 reports that the residents of Auburn Greens in Placer County, California were shocked to find notices taped to their doors informing them that their garage doors must be kept open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Monday through Friday, effective immediately. The punishment for violating the rule is a $200 fine and an administrative hearing.

The unwanted open door policy reportedly came about after the homeowner's association discovered a neighbor was letting tenants live in their garage.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/homeowners-association-enacts-insane-policy-forcing-residents-to-keep-garage-doors-open/ar-BBIagwc?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
January 9th, 2018 at 1:07:33 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Evenbob
This is getting really good. First all
qualified Dems were told to stand
aside for Obama in 2008.


WHAT?!?!?!

This is literally the most insane lie EB has ever told. I'm flabbergasted (and slightly amused).

He's pretending like Obama was the chosen candidate prior to 2008. Yeah right. No one knew who he was prior to 2008. Hillary was the candidate in waiting, and he stole it from her.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 9th, 2018 at 1:36:17 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
An HOA probably worried about illegal aliens.


And people wonder why I say avoid HOAs at all costs! Forgetting how silly to begin with, what about people out at work?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
January 9th, 2018 at 1:46:13 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: beachbumbabs
I've had that conversation several times with him ("she can't possibly be a Republican... ")


Based on your posts over the years, I do not believe it. Maybe to get into the local country club, but Republicans do not defend Bill Clinton's proven sexual harassment then go ape over Trump's alleged behavior. Just one of many, many examples.

Did you vote for Dole? Bush? McCain? Romney? Trump?




Quote: Dalex64
The fact that it is non-specific, too general and all-encompassing, and therefore inaccurate. That's all really.

that is why I consistently, as far as I know with the exception of my "generally speaking" post, say things like "some" or "most" and back those up with facts demonstrating and quantifying "some" or "most" etc.


Each his own. I do not feel the need to do this as my take is people understand a general comment and read things in context. IOW, I am posting on a forum, not writing a term paper. I wrote my last term paper 25 years ago. Forums are more casual language.

Peace.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
January 9th, 2018 at 2:02:48 PM permalink
Evenbob
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I'm stunned at the brilliance of what Trump
did today. He had an immigration meeting
with all the bigwigs in congress, and he
invited the press and the world into the room!

OMG! Did Obama EVER do this? Are you kidding?
This way it can't be reported that all Trump did
was drool and stare out the window and mutter
to himself in dementia while powering down Diet
Cokes. The press and the world saw a president
completely in control of the meeting and the room,
who never missed a beat. Trump says to the Dems,
"Tell me what you want, lay it out for me", right
in front of the press. And the Dems were crapping
their pants.

It was genius, pure genius. Nobody can make up lies
when you're this transparent with what you're doing.
The Dems and the press are stunned, they just got
outfoxed and it hasn't even dawned on them yet. LOL!
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 9th, 2018 at 2:16:19 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob

The Dems and the press are stunned, they just got
outfoxed and it hasn't even dawned on them yet. LOL!


Jamie Dimon just warned the Dems that they are looking at a loss in 2020.

Instead of finding a pro-growth message, the Dems are trying to prove which of them is crazier.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
January 9th, 2018 at 2:25:01 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: AZDuffman
Jamie Dimon just warned the Dems that they are looking at a loss in 2020. .


I'm sure he's wrong. The Opie is coming
on to fulfill every dream. I'm sure there
are no skeletons in her closet that can
haunt her. One thing The Opie has never
faced is, much real opposition in the media.
The Right Wing press will tear her up. If
you think she bawled like a new born baby
on her show, wait till she gets a taste of
political life in the spotlight.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.