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January 26th, 2019 at 8:01:39 AM permalink
Dalex64
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/25/trump-government-shutdown-end-border-wall-1128564

There are a lot of interesting quotes in that article. Well, Trump supporters won't find them interesting, they will just dismiss them all.

Here are a couple:

“President Nancy Pelosi, she runs the country now,” said a former White House official. “We went from indefinite shutdown, to down payment, to cave — all within a span of 24 hours.”

That official said that Trump’s core supporters and former aides are “furious” and “melting down.”

“He’s not going to sign a bill that doesn't have money for the wall. … If he gives in now, that's the end of 2019 in terms of him being an effective president,” Graham said on FOX News. “That’s probably the end of his presidency.”
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January 26th, 2019 at 8:21:52 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64

There are a lot of interesting quotes in that article.


What is interesting is we have one party now more openly in favor of illegal immigration and so many people supporting them. Sad.
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January 26th, 2019 at 10:26:48 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Did I miss something or is the bill passed only temporary? How did Pelosi "win" when the government gets shut down again and POTUS Trump declares an emergency and builds the wall?
January 26th, 2019 at 10:52:35 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: aceofspades
Did I miss something or is the bill passed only temporary? How did Pelosi "win" when the government gets shut down again and POTUS Trump declares an emergency and builds the wall?


Shh, Lefties are in denial about what's
really going on. Let them have their
moment, they'll find the truth out
eventually..
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January 26th, 2019 at 10:59:15 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: aceofspades
How did Pelosi "win" when the government gets shut down again and POTUS Trump declares an emergency and builds the wall?


Then it gets caught up in the court system for a long time.

And if somehow it does survive the Supreme Court, the next Dem President gets to declare a “national emergency” over climate change, gun violence, voter suppression, etc.

Slippery slope...
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January 26th, 2019 at 11:01:09 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Then it gets caught up in the court system for a long time.

And if somehow it does survive the Supreme Court, the next Dem President gets to declare a “national emergency” over climate change, gun violence, voter suppression, etc.

Slippery slope...


Does not get caught up in the court system for a long time - Left files an emergency injunction request suit in a District court governed by the 9th Circuit, the District court summarily grants it without reading it - 9th Circuit Court of appeals rubber stamps it - then goes to SCOTUS or the White House requests the SCOTUS fast-track the case to skip the 9th Circuit

Civil War II if there is ever a national emergency over gun violence

Also, do you think the Left cares whether POTUS Trump declares a national emergency or not - they will, when the mood strikes them if/when they win the Presidency, do it regardless of whether POTUS Trump declares one now - that is what they do - accuse others of what they have done or want to do - the Right has always cowered in fear of this - now POTUS Trump actually stands up to it
January 26th, 2019 at 11:05:20 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: aceofspades
Also, do you think the Left cares whether POTUS Trump declares a national emergency or not - they will, when the mood strikes them if/when they win the Presidency, do it regardless of whether POTUS Trump declares one now - that is what they do - accuse others of what they have done or want to do - the Right has always cowered in fear of this - now POTUS Trump actually stands up to it


But it will be more fun if we can point to the precedent set by Donald’s “national emergency.”
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January 26th, 2019 at 11:06:42 AM permalink
aceofspades
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But it will be more fun if we can point to the precedent set by Donald’s “national emergency.”



So, you admit that is the Left's tactic
January 26th, 2019 at 11:11:41 AM permalink
ams288
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So, you admit that is the Left's tactic


Not really. I wish it were. They need to start playing dirty like the right!
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January 26th, 2019 at 11:16:12 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: aceofspades
Does not get caught up in the court system for a long time - Left files an emergency injunction request suit in a District court governed by the 9th Circuit, the District court summarily grants it without reading it - 9th Circuit Court of appeals rubber stamps it - then goes to SCOTUS or the White House requests the SCOTUS fast-track the case to skip the 9th Circuit



I don't get how we have the same conditions in 3 weeks and it's then declared a national emergency with any legitimate cause. It either is because something changed, or it isn't IMO. Mexico having a coup and a multitude heading to the border would be a NE.
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