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Easter Is Coming in 8 Weeks
| February 21st, 2015 at 7:23:06 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
They say the big bang started this universe, what about others before it. Or others we don't know about. Drawing conclusions before all the facts are known is where superstition comes in. The cow went dry because the devil did it. The well went dry because you coveted your neighbors wife. You think you see a creation, so there must be a creator. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 21st, 2015 at 7:30:27 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | A thinking person who rejects god A thinking person who accepts god as a possibility A thinking person who selects god as the only reasonable explaination Which of these people has the most open mind? "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| February 21st, 2015 at 7:42:11 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
A closed mind is the 3rd choice. Accepting something without evidence is closing your mind on the subject. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 21st, 2015 at 8:04:17 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I do understand. This says it better than I can. "But what was this resurrection appearance like? Paul knows nothing of the bodily resurrection elaborated in the four gospels some 40 to 70 years after Jesus' death. That is to say, no women discovering an empty tomb, no angelic messengers, no appearance of the risen Lord to Mary Magdalene, no postmortem Jesus dining with the disciples, or Jesus magically passing through walls into a locked room, or having Thomas examine the wounds in Jesus' hands and side. For Paul, the resurrection appearance was a spiritual one, a heavenly vision that rocked him to the core of his being. And he must have concluded that the appearances of Jesus to Peter and James were the same as the one to him, because he would not have accepted their "hand of fellowship" (Gal. 2:9) if their understanding of the risen Christ differed from his own (2 Cor. 11:4-6). Indeed Paul was ready to make an outcast of anyone who disagreed with his Christology (Gal. 1:8-9). From this we are led to conclude that Peter and James and the others among the Twelve (strangely not 11 - was Judas a later invention?) had resurrection revelations similar to Paul's, only his was the last. The resurrection stories found later in the gospels could not have been in circulation orally during Paul's career (he died about the year 64 or 67) or the apostles and others would have had a great debate with him when he tried to explain his resurrection theology (see 1 Cor. 15:35-57). Simply put, the first witnesses listed by Paul had not heard of the gospels' resurrection accounts because they had not yet been invented!" If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2015 at 6:06:51 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Obviously it is option 2 - A thinking person who accepts God as a possibility. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 22nd, 2015 at 6:09:51 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
The third choice is a little bit of a red herring. Once someone has an experience of the divine then for them God is the only explanation. However, a thinking person would still say that God is not the only possible answer. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 22nd, 2015 at 6:44:25 AM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | So, for some people, the existence of god is a personal experience. For everybody else, it is a matter of opinion of probability - anywhere from 0 to 100. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| February 22nd, 2015 at 7:45:34 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | No, Everybody has personal and real experiences of God, the spiritual, or transcendent nature of life. The matter of opinion comes into play in regards to how people explain such experiences. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 22nd, 2015 at 12:06:03 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I love how you make blanket statements like they are truth. Why, everybody has god experiences, that's a fact. But it takes a really wise and experienced person to point them out to you, like a priest or a minister. You're just a clueless dolt without these helpful teachers to indoctrinate, er, explain things for you. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2015 at 4:04:27 PM permalink | |
| zippyboy Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 2 Posts: 665 |
And you married her anyway? lol No wonder you both spend your time in opposite wings of the house. |