Meltdown
October 19th, 2015 at 11:55:55 AM permalink | |
Ayecarumba Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 89 Posts: 1744 |
This creates an interesting dynamic for the bureaucracy. Recent efforts to "clean up" the government's practices there have made it difficult for the monied casinos to throw their weight (and Pataca's) around to get things done their way. However, there is so much pressure on the casinos (and I suppose a greater willingness to invest in "goodwill", payments... aka "bribes") to expand their offerings to capture as much of the tightened flow of capital from China, that I wonder which gasket is going to blow first. It is amazing how much corrupt money was flowing into Macau before the crackdown. |
October 19th, 2015 at 2:15:20 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I wonder if Steve can trade VIP tables for mass market tables. If he only gets 150 tables and has to split them at 75 VIP and 75 mass market, he is better off getting 400 mass market tables. I mean if the mass market tables earn $12K/day and the VIP tables are earning $20K/day perhaps he should become the poster child for the new cleaned up Macau. What precisely do you get at a VIP table ? Do you get money laundering rights? The so called "mass market tables" in Macau are still earning big bucks. The tables at Wynn Las Vegas earn $5.5K/day, they seem pretty upmarket to me. The blackjack tables in downtown Las Vegas make $577/day. To me that is "mass market". |
October 19th, 2015 at 2:56:09 PM permalink | |
Ayecarumba Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 89 Posts: 1744 |
My suspicion is that the size of the mass market is fixed or shrinking, and that offering more tables will only dilute an already declining market. The real profit has been in VIP rooms, providing luxury amenities to junket/syndicate backed high rollers. While Wynn's Macau tables may +earn 12k per day, the overhead on each of those seats has got to be huge when you consider a resort cost 4+ billion to build. Perhaps they should increase their efforts to attract whales in from Vietnam, Australia, Korea, or Japan? |
October 19th, 2015 at 6:47:35 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
That's a good question. Almost every jurisdiction that legalizes gambling hopes to make most of their profits from people outside of the jurisdiction. Any bets on the 3rd quarter results? Sands Casino 2nd quarter results/ 3rd quarter in two days on Wednesday -31.7% The Venetian Macao Operations -32.0% Sands Cotai Central -15.5% Four Seasons Hotel Macao and Plaza -23.1% Sands Macao -12.5% Marina Bay Sands Operations -17.1% Las Vegas Operations +9.6% Sands Bethlehem Operations |
October 21st, 2015 at 9:47:00 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Well Four Seasons went off the rail. Fortunately things are leveling out at Singapore. Bethlehem is still the tiny star. Sands Casino 3rd quarter results. -27.0% The Venetian Macao Operations -34.7% Sands Cotai Central -41.5% Four Seasons Hotel Macao and Plaza -26.6% Sands Macao +2.0% Marina Bay Sands Operations -22.5% Las Vegas Operations +13.5% Sands Bethlehem Operations Casino Revenue 3rd quarter (2nd quarter | 1st quarter ) $127.9 million Sands Vegas ($86.5 m | $111.8 m) $134.3 million Sands Bethlehem ($128.4 m | $118.8 m) |
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boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 | Despite the negatives (Net Revenue)
Now that said, margins are still good; Sands is reducing costs in step with reducing revenue and is showing that it is weathering the recession well. Adjusted EBITDA as a % of Percentage of Net Revenue
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October 22nd, 2015 at 11:47:14 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Actually I made a post about that three months ago. It is truly remarkable that they are capable of doing that given the depth of the revenue cut. I have to think that there are vast executive perks that must have existed to allow them to make those kind of cost cuts almost overnight. Wynn Resorts has not followed Sands. So far this year they have not been able to cut costs to keep up with drop in revenue. -27% Net revenues -19% Total operating costs and expenses -52% Operating income It was less than 3 years ago that there were news articles about Sands selling all their US properties and being solely in China and Singapore.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 10:05:11 AM permalink | |
Ayecarumba Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 89 Posts: 1744 | If they were wise and stored some of the astronomical profits during the rise of the bubble, they should have a softer descent now that the revenue is coming back to earth. If they sank the money into expansion (like Wynn), the big trouble is only starting. |
October 23rd, 2015 at 10:16:03 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Sands is a larger company and is on the hook for a less expensive resort. However, if either resort is only awarded 150 tables they are probably both in trouble. Sands is currently developing The Parisian Macao – its fourth property at Cotai Strip Resorts Macao – expected to open in 2016. It is to feature approximately 3,000 rooms and suites, gaming space, a retail mall, replica Eiffel Tower, MICE space, diverse food and beverage options, and entertainment. The total cost of the project is an estimated US$2.7 billion. Wynn is currently constructing Wynn Palace, an integrated resort containing a 1,700-room hotel, a performance lake, meeting space, a casino, a spa, retail offerings, and food-and-beverage outlets in the Cotai area of Macau. In July 2013, we signed a $2.6 billion guaranteed maximum price ("GMP") contract for the project’s construction costs. The total project budget, including construction costs, capitalized interest, pre-opening expenses, land costs and financing fees, is approximately $4.1 billion. We expect to open our resort on Cotai in the first half of 2016. In November 2014, Wynn was awarded a gaming license to develop and construct an integrated resort in Everett, Massachusetts, outside of Boston. The resort will be located on a 33 acre site along the Mystic River. The resort will contain a hotel, a waterfront boardwalk, meeting space, a casino, a spa, retail offerings, and food-and-beverage outlets. |
October 23rd, 2015 at 11:13:40 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Construction hasn't started yet, Wynn can still back out. http://www.wcvb.com/money/wynn-preparing-site-of-massachusetts-casino/35207564 If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |