Economics of movie theaters

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March 14th, 2017 at 4:55:56 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Nareed
The problem with that is you lose on the big screen experience.
Seems strange to pay so much for "an experience". Kids forcing it? I don't think a big screen experience trumps a lousy movie.
March 14th, 2017 at 5:11:11 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Fleastiff
I don't think a big screen experience trumps a lousy movie.


Garbage in, garbage out.
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March 14th, 2017 at 8:21:25 PM permalink
Evenbob
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The problem with that is you lose on the big screen experience.
.


That's been gone since about 1970. Sitting
in a movie palace in big plush seats, with
people who didn't talk during the movie,
in the 2nd tier balcony, the theater draped
floor to ceiling in red velvet curtains, a
uniformed usher who seated people with
a flashlight, no cell phones going off. That
was the the big screen experience.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 15th, 2017 at 5:08:22 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Pacomartin
Remarkably 4 out of 6 of the top earning movies released have an R-rating (45.6% of all gross revenue)
2 Logan
4 Fifty Shades Darker
5 Get Out
6 John Wick: Chapter Two

1 The LEGO Batman Movie (PG)
3 Split (PG-13)


It helps that all of these (minus Fifty Shades Darker) are great movies.

2017 has been a stellar year thus far.
March 15th, 2017 at 7:41:36 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ams288
2017 has been a stellar year thus far.


Particularly for R-rated films. But as you said the films are not just making money they are of much better quality.

2017 R-rated
1 Logan Fox R $156,527,513 (11 DAYS)
2 Fifty Shades Darker Uni. R $113,085,670
3 Get Out Uni. R $113,064,385 (18 DAYS)
4 John Wick: Chapter Two LG/S R $87,686,902

2016 R-rated
1 Deadpool Fox R $363,070,709
2 Bad Moms STX R $113,257,297
3 The Conjuring 2 WB (NL) R $102,470,008
4 Sausage Party Sony R $97,685,686

All Time R-rated
1 The Passion of the Christ NM $370,782,930 2004
2 Deadpool Fox $363,070,709 2016
3 American Sniper WB $350,126,372 2014

This year may go down as the year that R-Rated films made their comeback.
March 15th, 2017 at 1:00:18 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: Pacomartin
...This year may go down as the year that R-Rated films made their comeback.


I'd wait until July 4th to make the final determination. There are some big PG-13 films on the docket. Maybe the "R" rated films are only doing good because the PG13 - G rated competition to date is especially poor.
March 15th, 2017 at 9:49:36 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Ayecarumba
I'd wait until July 4th to make the final determination. There are some big PG-13 films on the docket.


Granted, it may just be a strong start. We are moving into the PG-13 film season, with Amy Shumer's Snatched the only likely big R-Rated film before the Summer.
March 15th, 2017 at 10:19:55 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
This year may go down as the year that R-Rated films made their comeback.


The Deadpool Effect: If a kind of neglected type of movie makes a ton of money, copycat Hollywood will make more of that type of neglected movie.

The Barney Corollary: The Deadpool Effect holds true if the type of movie is the mildest form of toddler entertainment; all that matters is the box office numbers.
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March 16th, 2017 at 4:30:10 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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The Deadpool Effect: If a kind of neglected type of movie makes a ton of money, copycat Hollywood will make more of that type of neglected movie.


Development of Logan began in November 2013. In March 2014, Jackman signed on to star as Logan, in what was intended to be his final portrayal of the character after having played the role for 17 years. Principal photography began in New Orleans, Louisiana on May 2, 2016, after Deadpool was in theaters. In December 2016, Ryan Reynolds revealed that he had been trying to convince Jackman to re-sign for a Wolverine/Deadpool crossover film.

It is not clear if Logan was envisioned as a PG-13 film and changed to an R rated film after the worldwide success of Deadpool. I haven't seen either film, but I get the feeling that the violence and sexual situations in Deadpool are more gratuitous than in Logan.

The other three films -Fifty Shades Darker, and John Wick: Chapter Two are sequels to R-rated films. Get Out, like most horror, requires an R-rating.
March 16th, 2017 at 5:45:18 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Pacomartin
It is not clear if Logan was envisioned as a PG-13 film and changed to an R rated film after the worldwide success of Deadpool. I haven't seen either film, but I get the feeling that the violence and sexual situations in Deadpool are more gratuitous than in Logan.


I read somewhere that Hugh Jackman took a pay cut in order to get the studio to allow an R-rating for Logan (I'm sure he'll make it up and then some on the back end).

I'd say Logan is more violent than Deadpool. Deadpool had more cartoony violence. Logan features countless characters getting Logan's steel claws jammed into their skulls.
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