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June 7th, 2016 at 9:29:13 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
You remember nothing of us already discussing this in depth. The new scholars of the last 20 years all agree the NT was written over a 300 year period. They said it was a cottage industry, not me. If you're a writer in 250ad and want to get noticed, you pen a book and say it was written by Peter, or James or Paul. If you place it correctly it will catch on and your ideas will get noticed. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 7th, 2016 at 9:43:32 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Please give me the name of any respected Biblical scholar who says any of the NT was written after 150AD. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 7th, 2016 at 10:27:41 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
If I do you'll say you want a 'respected' scholar, not a best selling one. What you want is a Vatican approved Bible scholar, that's what you want me to name. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 7th, 2016 at 10:31:53 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Please name a Protestant one if you'd like we're all in agreement on this fact. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 7th, 2016 at 10:37:23 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
What's being connected to religion got to do with it. There are unbiased non religious researchers, you know. I'd like to say I can't believe you're bringing this up again, we discussed it at length months ago. In one ear.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 7th, 2016 at 10:40:23 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | I remember you didn't give a name then either. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 7th, 2016 at 10:58:49 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
I gave many. Surely you remember this guy. He's proven half the NT is forged: 'Bart D. Ehrman has written or edited thirty books, including five New York Times bestsellers: How Jesus Became God, Misquoting Jesus, God’s Problem, Jesus Interrupted and Forged. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and is a leading authority on the New Testament and the history of early Christianity.' Or 'CHRIST'S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity' https://www.amazon.com/CHRISTS-VENTRILOQUISTS-Event-Created-Christianity-ebook/dp/B007Q1H4EG There's lots more but why bother. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 8th, 2016 at 4:49:33 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
That is not the choice. It is not "Jesus Himself" it is what an anonymous author wrote, and after years of copying and possibly editing, ended up in the bible. I think that is the point of the jesus seminar - what did jesus actually say? What quotes can be positively attributed to him? So no, the choice isn't between what jesus said and what the jesus seminar said, the choice is: what did jesus actually say, and how do you know he actually said it? "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
June 8th, 2016 at 4:57:44 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament/ No later than 150? Aside from editing and other insertions until at least 300, as evidenced by older source materials which were missing certain passages. That late, it would be like us now writing about world war I, from oral histories only, and from limited texts on the subject from 1950, which again would have been based on oral tradition rather than the mass of documentary evidence about WWI that was written at the time. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
June 8th, 2016 at 6:15:37 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Free? I beg to differ. it costs your soul. Your blind, unquestioning obedience to every outdated rule in an old book, to every edict from Rome, to every pointless ritual, to disgusting acts of not-so-symbolic cannibalism, all regardless of what your judgment tells you. What would it gain anyone to enter heaven and lose their soul? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |