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Quote: Pacomartin

I doubt it. He was between the ages of 9 and 10 when they shot that movie.
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I saw the Santa movie a few weeks ago.
If I was the parents of a kid that young,
I would never let anybody speak to him
like that. If you watch the worst scenes,
you never see them in the same shot,
it's always separate shots. A kid that
young, even though it's fake, isn't
capable of processing being spoken
to that way even if he knows it's fake.
It would explain why he was so undaunted
after the more brutal attacks. He never
heard them.

I'm still not convinced the scenes were shot separately. There is no mention of that in the trivia section at IMDB.

I've endured listening to my father's endless swearing since the day I was born.

BTW, there is a sequel coming out later this year.

This interview implies that they were not shot separately.

http://www.film4.com/special-features/interviews/billy-bob-thornton-on-bad-santa

Quote:

Still, you have to wonder if his expletive-laden rants had a potentially corrupting effect on any of the child actors on the set. "Those kids were so nonplussed, they couldn't care less about cursing," insists Thornton – who, for the record, wouldn't let his own children watch the film.

Quote: Wizard

I'm still not convinced the scenes were shot separately. There is no mention of that in the trivia section at IMDB.

I've endured listening to my father's endless swearing since the day I was born.

BTW, there is a sequel coming out later this year.

As a guess to tell if it was shot separate look at the angle and what is behind. If you keep seeing just one actor on camera switching back and forth it was probably shot separate, with probably a stand-in actor or even a dummy. Think of how you shoot it. Think if you would see cameras in the background during the scene.

Regarding kids being exposed to profanity, this video is eerily similar to what I witnessed every day of my childhood. If I could take it my whole life, I think that kid could take a few weeks of it (I think I read the movie was shot very quickly).

Quote: Wizard

If I could take it my whole life, I think that kid could take a few weeks of it (I think I read the movie was shot very quickly).

If you are familiar with VEEP the award winning political dark comedy starring Julia Louis Dreyfuss, the same team made a film in Britain a few years earlier about British and American politics and the Iraq word (called "In The Loop"). Peter Capaldi played a famously vulgar character , the Prime Minister's Director of Communications, Malcolm Tucker. Peter Capaldi was later cast as Dr. Who.

Quote: Wizard

If I could take it my whole life, I think that kid could take a few weeks of it

The problem with kids that young
is they don't react to it well. It
either scares them or makes them
nervous and they have all the wrong
facial reactions. If you watch the kid
in those kinds of scenes, he never has
any expression at all, it's almost spooky.
Either he's a very good actor (unlikely)
or he wasn't there when he was being
yelled at. Like I said, it's all done with
a single camera. First they film the
scene with Billy Bob ranting and the
camera is on him. Then they do it
again and the camera is on the kid.
He could very well not have been there
when he was being yelled at.

Most of the scenes are like that when
the kid is verbally abused. His face is
always a complete blank. No kid is
that good an actor. People wonder why
actors are paid so much. If there are 8
camera angles in a scene, that means
the entire scene has to be shot 8 times,
and the actors have to do it the same
way every time. It's exhausting and a hell
of a lot of work and takes a lot of talent.

Quote: Wizard

Regarding kids being exposed to profanity, this video is eerily similar to what I witnessed every day of my childhood. If I could take it my whole life, I think that kid could take a few weeks of it (I think I read the movie was shot very quickly).

HA!Hahaha XD

Some day my kid is gonna be on here saying "Here's a video that represents every day of my childhood" XD

But I think there's a HUGE difference between swearing around a kid and swearing AT a kid. I do not shield my kid from "adult stuff", or at least not as vigorously as many. I keep him away from porn and incredibly graphic violence, such as the kind that can only be found online. But I use f#$% like a comma, we play Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, and other "MA17" games, I allow him to witness death without a ton of sugar coating or misleading. He's just fine. Better than fine. It makes me laugh because he always approaches adults as equals and speaks to them as such. Polite. Intelligent (or at least as intelligent as a 7yr old can be). And most importantly, happy.

Of course, I also think I'm much more hands on than most. I don't think I've used "because I said so" once. I always try to explain, best I can, all the things around him, including that which most people try to shield him from. He's gonna see it, hear it, be exposed to it. I guess I just feel it's best if his first times around are done with me right there, and to do so without assuming it is beyond his ken. He "might be too young", but if I don't get to him now, someone or something else will. I'd rather do it it my way, where I can at least attempt to mold the experience.

If I ever swore AT him, I'd likely not sleep for a week.

Quote: Evenbob

If you watch the kid
in those kinds of scenes, he never has
any expression at all, it's almost spooky.
Either he's a very good actor (unlikely)
or he wasn't there when he was being
yelled at.

I think he is that good an actor. At this point I think we'll have to agree to disagree. However, I have the DVD, which I think has a director's commentary track. Don't be surprised if I wake up this thread years from now and quote from it, as I'm sure the commentary must address this question.

Or, if we're lucky, Paco will come along and tell us for sure the answer.

Quote: Wizard

I think he is that good an actor. .

No. He made Santa when he was 9. Since
then his career has been lackluster to
say the least. Bit parts in a couple movies
and TV shows and videos, he's mostly
not working at age 23. He is making
Santa 2 for release at Xmas, with Billy
Bob. It can't be as good as the first
and has bust written all over it.

"Billy Bob Thornton admitted that he was genuinely intoxicated during the filming. Thornton said that he's had eight year olds approach him about his role in the movie. He was stunned that parents would even allow their kids to watch that movie at that age. The word "fuck" and its variations are used 159 times in the movie. The term "shit" appears 73 times amid a total of approx. 300 profanities. The unrated version of the film furthers the record for the most profanities in a Christmas film, including 170 uses of "fuck", 74 uses of "shit", 31 uses of "ass", 10 uses of "bitch", and 1 use of "bastard", in variable forms."