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Poll

	He won't even make it to the inauguration		2 votes (8.69%)
	0-1 year		1 vote (4.34%)
	1-2 years		No votes (0%)
	2-3 years		2 votes (8.69%)
	3-4 years		2 votes (8.69%)
	Second term (yeah, right)		13 votes (56.52%)
	Lifetime reign (abolishes the Constitution)		No votes (0%)
	He's really Vladimir Putin in disguise		2 votes (8.69%)
	He's really Ronald McDonald in disguise		No votes (0%)
	He's really Bill Clinton in disguise		1 vote (4.34%)

23 members have voted

August 22nd, 2018 at 5:42:12 PM permalink
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212	Quote: Dalex64 A lefty stating that the scenario is possible is very different from the majority of the left believing that it is likely. Lefties have come up with so many silly Trump ideas I have lost count. Maybe the latest is he will try to get impeached to help Hillary in 2020? The President is a fink.

August 22nd, 2018 at 5:48:33 PM permalink

Evenbob

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: AZDuffman

Maybe the latest is he will try to get impeached to help Hillary in 2020?

It's a fact that a lot of clueless Libs
think Hillary gets the presidency
if Trump is impeached. They are
that ignorant on how things work.

I just heard a story on how Pense
would be the Left's nightmare,
he's so conservative he makes
Reagan look like a Commie.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

August 22nd, 2018 at 8:15:31 PM permalink

reno

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 58
Posts: 1384

Quote: Evenbob
Look at John Edwards, they
tried to nail him and he was exonerated.

Prosecutors in the Edwards case couldn't prove the motive for the payments because the elderly wealthy benefactors who paid Edwards' mistress never testified at the trial. Cohen has already told the court under oath what the motive was to pay Stormy Daniels: to influence the election.

Quote: Bob Bauer
The sort of payments at issue in the Daniels and McDougal matters can present tricky issues of motive: How much was Trump moved to silence these women to spare himself personal as well as political pain? Only a motivation materially if not wholly shaped by political objectives would implicate federal campaign finance law in a situation like this.

A different but similar case against vice presidential candidate John Edwards failed to win over a jury. Edwards sought to conceal an affair and the child that it produced, and in making covert arrangements for their support, he accepted substantial financial assistance from two staunch political allies. The government sought to prosecute him for receiving excessive and unreported contributions but could not procure a conviction.

With the Cohen testimony, prosecutors would have good reason to believe that this case is far stronger than the one brought against Edwards. The Edwards trial was notable for the absence of two key witnesses: the Edwards political supporters who financed the scheme of concealment and support for his lover and their child. One witness was dead and the other, at age 101, was unable to testify at trial. In this case, the key witness is talking: His statement to the court Tuesday included the admission that in arranging these payments, he had acted “in coordination with” and “at the direction of … a candidate for federal office.” Cohen’s lawyer Lanny Davis then confirmed on Twitter that his client had “testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime.” Together with other evidence, such as the timing of the payments, Cohen’s plea transforms a potentially difficult case about motive into a solid bet for the prosecution.

If Edwards had been convicted on all 6 counts, the maximum sentence would've been $1.5 million fine and... 30 years in prison.

August 22nd, 2018 at 8:29:52 PM permalink
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384	Quote: Evenbob Unlike Obama, who had to pay #350K in fines in 08 for campaign crimes. Obama's campaign paid a relatively small fine ($375,000) because they were able to argue to the FEC that they had merely "missed some deadlines." (Year right!) Cohen couldn't go that route because he had left a paper trail of falsified documents and a fictitious Delaware shell corporation.

August 23rd, 2018 at 5:14:01 AM permalink

Dalex64

Member since: Mar 8, 2014
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Quote: reno
Obama's campaign paid a relatively small fine ($375,000) because they were able to argue to the FEC that they had merely "missed some deadlines." (Year right!) Cohen couldn't go that route because he had left a paper trail of falsified documents and a fictitious Delaware shell corporation.

I read today that Obama's campaign violations were civil violations, and Cohen's are criminal violations.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

August 23rd, 2018 at 5:29:36 AM permalink
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12536	Quote: Dalex64 I read today that Obama's campaign violations were civil violations, and Cohen's are criminal violations. Yup. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman

August 23rd, 2018 at 1:24:05 PM permalink

Evenbob

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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In the peepee dossier, it says Cohen
was in Prague at Trump's request to set up
collusion with the Russians. This is Lanny
Davis on Chuck Todd's show earlier:

TODD: Can you say definitively whether you know if Michael Cohen ever was in Prague in 2016?

DAVIS: Never, never in Prague. Did I make that — never, never —

TODD: Never in Prague.

DAVIS: — in Prague. Ever.

TODD: Without —

DAVIS: Ever. And we were — just to let your viewers know what we’re talking about, is that the dossier, so-called, mentions his name 14 times, one of which is a meeting with Russians in Prague.

TODD: Yep.

DAVIS: Fourteen times false.

He examined Cohen's passport and he
was never anywhere near there in 2016.
Their case is unraveling faster than a
cat playing with a ball of yarn. LOL

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

August 23rd, 2018 at 1:34:53 PM permalink
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12536	Quote: Evenbob He examined Cohen's passport and he was never anywhere near there in 2016. Their case is unraveling faster than a cat playing with a ball of yarn. LOL Cohen’s denial of being in Prague & his passport evidence was breaking news..... in January 2017. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman

August 23rd, 2018 at 1:39:00 PM permalink

Evenbob

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
Posts: 25011

Quote: ams288
Cohen’s denial of being in Prague & his passport evidence was breaking news..... in January 2017.

But now his lawyer is saying it
on national TV, that the dossier
is full of lies. The dossier they
used to get the FISA warrant is
all made up BS. Davis never
would have been asked that
question if Todd knew how he
would answer.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

August 23rd, 2018 at 1:53:31 PM permalink
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12536	Quote: Evenbob The dossier they used to get the FISA warrant And you accuse me of not paying attention to the real news. This is about as big a lie as one could peddle! “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman

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