Upcoming 2017 films

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December 29th, 2016 at 10:00:03 AM permalink
DRich
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I haven't seen a movie in a theater for about six years but my wife almost has me convinced to join her to see "A Dog's Purpose". She loved the book and it sounds interesting, but I just hate the thought of crying in public.
December 29th, 2016 at 10:05:53 AM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: ams288
Christopher Nolan is the reason I'm looking forward to that movie. I have been underwhelmed by the trailers so far. But I have faith in his storytelling skills.

I think they showed 5 minutes or so of Dunkirk footage before certain IMAX screenings of Rogue One, and I heard good reviews of that footage...


I saw the trailer for "Dunkirk" and unless they are holding back the best parts of the film, it doesn't look like it will be very successful.

The Lego Batman movie is going to make a lot of money. Just like the original Lego movie, there's alot of jokes that are intended for the adults in the audience, especially about Robin and his costume. The big question for me is if audiences will be able to put up with the gravely voice of the lead for two hours.

The trailer for "Despicable Me: 3" that I saw featured a villain with an 80's throwback theme to appeal to the parents and grandparents who will inevitably be buying lots of tickets.

The Spiderman reboot trailer I saw had a lot of Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man in it, so much so that it wasn't completely clear that it was a Spiderman film. Sort of how "Captain America: Civil War" wasn't really a Capt. America movie.

The two that I am looking forward to seeing are Kong and Guardians 2. Should be fun.
December 29th, 2016 at 12:37:18 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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>I guess I am a traditionalist, so these are the five films I am looking forward to.
I'm not looking forward to any of them. Don't know much about them from just the titles but have heard that the Great Wall as being a historical whitewash and so have no interest in it.B Blade Runner Reheated wil be no good. Dunkirk will not show the incredible blundering that created its necessity and will not show the tank that was stopped from advancing by Hitler's personal order.
December 29th, 2016 at 12:42:39 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Fleastiff
>I guess I am a traditionalist, so these are the five films I am looking forward to.
.


I never look forward to any movie, there
are way too many disappointments. I
see movies eventually, as they show up
on Nflix or Prime. Going to a theater is
such a hassle by comparison, why go
thru all that if you don't have to.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 29th, 2016 at 4:21:32 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: DRich
I haven't seen a movie in a theater for about six years


My record stands at about 7 years and 5 months :) I reckon that was the elapsed time between The Dark Night and The Force Awakens.

Since then I've seen three other movies (Batman v Superman, Arrival and Rogue One, if you must know). I may see Wonder Woman next year, and I'll definitely see Ep. VIII The Force Hits the Snooze Button.
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December 30th, 2016 at 4:16:13 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
Going to a theater is such a hassle by comparison, why go thru all that if you don't have to.


A surprising number of adults don't like movies. But equally surprisingly large percentage of the populaion goes to at least one movie per year. The number of tickets sold has been hovering at around 1.3 billion since roughly 1996 while the average price per ticket has doubled in USA and Canada.

Candy and popcorn sales keep the huge number of theaters open in Northern America. They are also inordinately dependent on the small subculture that sees at least ten movies per year (mostly teenage boys).

But, of course, the real gold mine is foreign box office sales, and in particular China.


year ,000 average largest revenue film of year in Northern America
2016 1,307 $8.61 Finding Dory
2015 1,320 $8.43 Star Wars: The Force Awakens
2014 1,268 $8.17 American Sniper
2013 1,344 $8.13 Catching Fire
2012 1,362 $7.96 The Avengers
2011 1,283 $7.93 Harry Potter / Deathly Hallows (P2)
2010 1,339 $7.89 Toy Story 3
2009 1,413 $7.50 Avatar
2008 1,341 $7.18 The Dark Knight
2007 1,405 $6.88 Spider-Man 3
2006 1,406 $6.55 Dead Man's Chest
2005 1,379 $6.41 Revenge of the Sith
2004 1,511 $6.21 Shrek 2
2003 1,532 $6.03 Return of the King <-------------------------------- largest number of tickets sold
2002 1,576 $5.81 Spider-Man
2001 1,487 $5.66 Harry Potter / Sorcerer's Stone
2000 1,421 $5.39 The Grinch
1999 1,465 $5.08 The Phantom Menace
1998 1,481 $4.69 Saving Private Ryan
1997 1,388 $4.59 Titanic
1996 1,339 $4.42 Independence Day
...
1995 1,263 $4.35 Toy Story
1994 1,292 $4.18 Forrest Gump
1993 1,244 $4.14 Jurassic Park
1992 1,173 $4.15 Aladdin
1991 1,141 $4.21 Terminator 2
1990 1,189 $4.23 Home Alone
1989 1,263 $3.97 Batman
1988 1,085 $4.11 Rain Man
1987 1,089 $3.91 Three Men and a Baby
1986 1,017 $3.71 Top Gun
1985 1,056 $3.55 Back to the Future
1984 1,199 $3.36 Beverly Hills Cop
1983 1,197 $3.15 Return of the Jedi
1982 1,175 $2.94 E.T.
1981 1,067 $2.78 Raiders / Lost Ark
1980 1,022 $2.69 The Empire Strikes Back


Quote: AMC Is Set to Become the Biggest Movie Theater Company in the U.S. : By MICHAEL CIEPLY MARCH 7, 2016

The announcement that AMC Entertainment will acquire Carmike Cinemas is the latest move in a consolidation of the movie theater business that has been underway for at least 20 years.

In 1995, Carmike, based in Georgia, was the largest chain in the United States, with about 2,500 screens. AMC, then known as American Multi-Cinema and based in Missouri (now in Kansas), was in third place, with almost 2,000 screens. But a wave of theater sales and bankruptcies, along with later multiplex expansion during a rebound, changed the configuration.

AMC Entertainment, which was purchased at the beginning of the year by the Dalian Wanda Group of China, is poised to control one out of five theaters in the United States.
December 30th, 2016 at 5:07:17 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
Candy and popcorn sales keep the huge number of theaters open in Northern America.


And have since the 30's. No theater makes
a dime off the movie they rent. Every bit
of profit comes from 500-2000% markup
on everything the concession sells. It was
the same for drive-ins. My wife and her
sister go to a movieplex. They have a deal
where for $10 you get a big bucket of popcorn,
and as many refills as you want for a month.
You have to bring the same bucket back each
time is the catch. It's a total profit maker, a
bucket costs them pennies to make.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 30th, 2016 at 6:07:39 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Evenbob
And have since the 30's. No theater makes
a dime off the movie they rent. Every bit
of profit comes from 500-2000% markup
on everything the concession sells.


I worked at a theater for five years during high school and college.

While it is true that the vast majority of a theater's profits come from concessions, to say they never make a dime off of movie tickets is just not true.

It depends on a lot of factors, but the longer the movie plays at the theater, the more money the theater will get from it. Theaters have to pay way more to play a movie on its opening weekend than they do on that movie's fourth or fifth weekend.

Other things like 3D and IMAX upcharges also help out the theater's profits.

Of course, I worked at the theater when they still used film prints. Every week the UPS guy would deliver a bunch of film canisters and we would have to assemble them. Everything is digital now. :(
December 30th, 2016 at 6:18:53 PM permalink
Evenbob
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I knew the guy who was manager for all
the theaters in Santa Barbara in the 80's.
He said all the profit was from the concessions
and none came from ticket sales. They paid
the rent, and utilities and employee salaries,
but all the owners profit came from popcorn
and hot dog and candy sales.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:00:15 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
Every bit of profit comes from 500-2000% markup on everything the concession sells.


Before Carmike theaters were sold, they used to state that 800% was there average markup for concessions.

It's my understanding that studios are going to try and go back to their plan to sell movies for $50 on pay for view within 2-4 weeks of coming out in boxoffice. But this time they are going to cut the theater circuits in on the profits so they don't fight it tooth and nail like they did a few years ago.

Wanda Group by buying AMC corporation may end up controlling all the movies that end up in China.

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