Good Friday

Quote: FrGamble

Once Hitler gave up faith in God

Hitler did NOT lose his faith, he never renounced
the Church. He spoke highly of Jesus in his adult
life. He was religious in his own way.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." Adolf Hitler

He learned his hatred of Jews in his Catholic
upbringing. At the time he attended his
Catholic school, the Church was on a jihad
against the Jews for trying to take over the
Holyland. The Vatican painted them as devils,
so did the Protestants in EU. They were
responsible for all the worlds problems.

Given this upbringing, it's no mystery where
his anti semitism came from. The Church had
hated and persecuted the Jews for centuries.

When it comes to Hitler's religious beliefs you are again wrong. I feel bad you think these things when they are so clearly wrong. Here is a link to learn about his religious views: Religious views of Hitler[\link]

“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (

I don't know if its really a belief in God that you people are discussing.

I recall the movie The Grand Canyon wherein some Los Angeles dwellers arrive at the Grand Canyon and stand in awe as their Los Angeles have recently unfolded.

I think the 'If there is a clock, there must be a clock maker' expression relates to this.

Nature accomplishes wonders. There is no question that we stand amazed. Those mice swimming around and around until exhaustion to prove the benefits of hope of rescue come to mind, particularly the cartoon which depicts one just rescued mouse on the ledge saying to the other "Now do you believe there is a God?". Even death and destruction (or atleast the danger of it) can transfigure us. Just watching a waterfall, a mountain torrent, a volcanic erruption, a glacier calving, a geyer spouting, etc. is inspiring.

We tend to interpret history as good or bad depending upon our views at the moment but battles are not the work of God. Whether it is 'our Team' or simply the team we happened to bet money on, the touchdown is not the work of God.

We look for answers in roulette and baccarat with the encouragement of the casino, we look for answers in society with the encouragement of the clergy, the family, the school system, etc.

We must accept the outcome of the roulette wheel and we, as well as the bookie, must accept the outcome of the game. Such things as death...well, I guess we have accept that event too, but we will never know for sure about life after death. Should we listen to the clergy and prayer prattlers with respect or contempt or disdain? I choose to tolerate the religious types much the same way as I would tolerate the disabled or those who believe in the Great Pumpkin. I really think the rescue of the Holy Land was always a pretext just as much as the Inquisition was abut faith rather than power and stability.

Those who die on the battlefield are dead, no matter which side they fought for or which side won. So is there a God? The answer to that has as much relevance as asking which side in the battle was in the right?

Quote: FrGamble

When it comes to Hitler's religious beliefs you are again wrong. I feel bad you think these things when they are so clearly wrong. Here is a link to learn about his religious views: Religious views of Hitler

Actually the more I read about this I realize it is not that you are just plain wrong it is that you lack nuance, treat complex issues simplistically, are prone to exaggeration to prove a point, and use incendiary rhetoric.

Quote: FrGamble

When it comes to Hitler's religious beliefs

'You will find it in Mein Kampf: “Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s Work.” Hitler said it again at a Nazi Christmas celebration in 1926: “Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews … The work that Christ started but could not finish, I — Adolf Hitler — will conclude.”

'In a Reichstag speech in 1938, Hitler again echoed the religious origins of his crusade. “I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
Hitler regarded himself as a Catholic until he died. “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so,” he told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941.'

Where do you think Hitler learned his rabid
hatred of the Jews, on the street? He grew
up in a terribly anti-Jewish era, where the
Jews were trying to get a foothold in the
Hplyland. The Church was dead set against
this and blamed the Jews for all the economic
problems of the era. This is all Hitler heard
growing up, a hatred for the Jews from the
Church and his devout Catholic mother.