The Coronavirus thread

Quote: Aussie

The word “call” refers to it being a phone call. :S

Still an absolutely meaningless
worst case scenario. There are
lots of people who love spreading
woe and grief. It's Spring, the
weather is getting warmer and
people will soon be out and about
saying screw it, this whole thing
is stupid.

Here is my prediction:

2,000 to 3,000 American casualties. That's about as many Americans who die of all causes in 10 to 12 hours.

I'm all in favor of social distancing, washing hands, and taking extreme measure to slow down the spread, but we will get past this in 3 to 4 months.

I purchased $60,000 in stock Thursday and Friday, which shows I'm putting my money where my mouth is. As a country, we've been through much worse.

Quote: Wizard

Here is my prediction:

2,000 to 3,000 American casualties..

No matter what the number 90+% will
be elderly. It's all about energy. It's
takes a hell of a lot of it for a body
to heal itself from an infection at any
age. If you're over 80 you often don't
have that energy and your body gives
up.

Year : Estimated Deaths per month /day in the US (by census bureau) of all causes
2020: 230,630 / 7,582
2021: 233,103 / 7,664
2022: 235,577 / 7,745
2023: 238,332 / 7,836

Quote: Wizard

Here is my prediction:2,000 to 3,000 American casualties. That's about as many Americans who die of all causes in 10 to 12 hours.

Another way to put that number in perspective is that the number of deaths is expected to increase (year over year) by 2,000 to 3,000 Americans per month just because our population is getting older.

If the total death toll from the virus is really 2,000 to 3,000 Americans, we will almost certainly kill that many by the economic strains of putting tens of millions of wage earners out of work.

Quote: Evenbob

Still an absolutely meaningless
worst case scenario. There are
lots of people who love spreading
woe and grief. It's Spring, the
weather is getting warmer and
people will soon be out and about
saying screw it, this whole thing
is stupid.

Thanks scoop! Lol

Likely end result is not as bad as the doomsayers are saying but will be much worse than the few head in the sand types we’ve seen on this forum seem to think.

Quote: Wizard

Here is my prediction:

2,000 to 3,000 American casualties. That's about as many Americans who die of all causes in 10 to 12 hours.

I'm all in favor of social distancing, washing hands, and taking extreme measure to slow down the spread, but we will get past this in 3 to 4 months.

I purchased $60,000 in stock Thursday and Friday, which shows I'm putting my money where my mouth is. As a country, we've been through much worse.

I am also putting in a decent amount on a few stocks. POed my limit call missed by a few cents on Friday. Done right anyone getting in on these levels should do well. I doubt I do Cadillac well, but at lease Hyundai well.

Unlike 2008 the mood of the average person I have known so far is the same as yours, that this is a time to buy. Q1 is lost, we will have GDP contraction maybe severe. But pockets are will keep doing well. Nobody at my office can keep up. WMT will have a killer quarter with all these sales.

I kindly ask Wiz for a LV casino report, what is closed now, how empty are they out there? And what of CET and the other majors recovery times?

Quote: Evenbob

No matter what the number 90+% will be elderly. It's all about energy.

Our ability to fight disease declines with age. Natures way of protecting the gene pool, by removing the weak and unproductive from the gene pool and food supply. If you over eat, or underwork, or have other poor health habits, you are being targeted.

Covid-19 is removing the elderly and those with underlying health conditions from the gene pool and competition for the food supply. So far no pediatric fatalities, and the average age for those who died is 69. In Italy the average age for those who have died is 81.

Italy, with the oldest population in Europe, now has more active cases than China.

Stay useful.

I worked out in a gym where I knew a 78 year old who could rep 225 lbs. on the bench press, and bend four inch nails end to end.

He and his training partner often stressed the importance of regular heavy exercise. “People age quickly when they retire. Nature doesn’t know the difference between work and exercise. Exercise makes nature think you’re productive and useful. You’ve got to let nature know you’re still useful. Otherwise, it will get rid of you.”

I saw the partner last year. “I’ll be 94 in two days. Train long and hard, and maybe you’ll live to be 94 too.”

"It’s important to remember that they were there for us when we were growing up, Mr. President. They helped us with our homework. They tucked us in at night. They cheered us on as we pursued educations, cheered us on in our careers. And now it’s time for us to be there with them and to recognize that seniors with chronic health conditions are the most vulnerable, and Americans can make a difference. So wash your hands, use common sense, look after the most vulnerable." - V.P. Pence

All over the country they are making the unprecedented decision to suspend public Masses. This is unreal. Yet qhen I walk around I still see people eating at crowded resturants and milling about as if all was normal. I am having a hard time making sense of it all either these drastic decisions are way off base or the current behavior I see is making everything much worse.

One thing someone told me that helped is that in 3 weeks we might not know if our social distancing really helped but if we are past this difficult point in history we will be glad no matter what we did it.

Quote: FrGamble

All over the country they are making the unprecedented decision to suspend public Masses. This is unreal. Yet qhen I walk around I still see people eating at crowded resturants and milling about as if all was normal. I am having a hard time making sense of it all either these drastic decisions are way off base or the current behavior I see is making everything much worse.

One thing someone told me that helped is that in 3 weeks we might not know if our social distancing really helped but if we are past this difficult point in history we will be glad no matter what we did it.

I was curious how the orders affected Mass/Services. 250 people seems to be the magic number, even small Parishes should easily exceed that for all but the dawn Masses.

How is it at your Parish? Have Bishops given dispensation (right term?) from Sunday Mass?

EDIT: It has made the news, still interested in FrG's input though.

Quote: Wizard

Here is my prediction:

2,000 to 3,000 American casualties. That's about as many Americans who die of all causes in 10 to 12 hours.

Does that include the Americans who need to be hospitalized for other reasons (car accidents, etc) but can't because there are no beds or doctors available?

In a typical flu season, 3% of US hospital intensive care unit beds are occupied by flu victims. Currently in Italy, 80% of ICU beds are hospitalized by coronavirus victims. And Italy has more beds per capita than the US.

Quote: Wizard

I'm all in favor of social distancing, washing hands, and taking extreme measure to slow down the spread, but we will get past this in 3 to 4 months.

What happens in 3 to 4 months? Warm weather? Australia's flu season is typically June to September. There are currently 250 cases of coronavirus in Australia. I suspect that in the United States the number of cases might decline in the summer and then come roaring back in November. It's unlikely we'll have a vaccine before 2021 or 2022.