HBO Max new streaming service

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December 3rd, 2020 at 3:58:42 PM permalink
Evenbob
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I sub to HBO Max on Amazon, and
dropped Showtime. Nflix just raised
their rates again and I'm close to
dropping them.
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December 3rd, 2020 at 7:33:41 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ams288
Wow.
Warner Bros. announces their ENTIRE slate of 2021 movies will premiere on HBO Max.

The lineup includes
  1. Matrix 4,
  2. The Suicide Squad,
  3. Godzilla vs. Kong,
  4. Dune,
  5. The Little Things,
  6. Judas and the Black Messiah,
  7. Tom & Jerry,
  8. Mortal Kombat,
  9. Those Who Wish Me Dead,
  10. The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It,
  11. In The Heights,
  12. Space Jam: A New Legacy,
  13. Reminiscence,
  14. Malignant,
  15. The Many Saints of Newark,
  16. King Richard,
  17. Cry Macho


Quote: ams288
The end of moviegoing as we know it?


Possibly not. Warner brothers sold roughly 21 million tickets to four movies released this year. More like an art-house company than a major movie studio.

9,238,030 Birds of Prey Feb 7, 2020 Action R $84,158,461
6,300,768 Tenet Sep 3, 2020 Action PG-13 $57,400,000
3,922,461 Just Mercy Jan 10, 2020 Drama PG-13 $35,733,621
1,491,823 The Way Back Mar 6, 2020 Drama R $13,590,514
20,953,082 ---------------- ---------------- ------------- ----- $190,882,596

Warner Brothers sold some 175 million tickets in 2019. They may simply go back that way when COVID is gone. It is not clear if the other major studios will follow. Disney showed Mulan on Disney+, but it came with a $30 surcharge.

Market Share 2020
  1. 21.70% Sony Pictures
  2. 19.24% Universal
  3. 11.51% Walt Disney
  4. 10.11% Warner Bros.
  5. 9.25% Paramount Pictures
  6. 4.57% 20th Century Studios
  7. 2.87% Lionsgate
  8. 2.53% STX Entertainment
  9. 2.42% Compass International
  10. 2.38% 20th Century Fox
December 16th, 2020 at 2:19:37 PM permalink
ams288
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HBO Max finally coming to Roku devices.... tomorrow!

I can finally watch it on my TV and not my phone!
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December 16th, 2020 at 10:05:06 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ams288
HBO Max finally coming to Roku devices.... tomorrow!


I think the lack of support for Roku has been a big part of HBO Max's failure.

Trivia: What does roku mean and why was it chosen to name this device?


Quote: The Verge:By Jon Porter@JonPorty Jul 2, 2019
Roku is the most popular streaming platform in the US by a huge margin
Installed on over 41 million Roku devices nationally

Over 30 percent of all new TV streaming devices sold in the US last quarter ran Roku software, according to a new report from Strategy Analytics (via 9to5Google). The sales mean that Roku is now used on more than 41 million devices across the country. Roku’s share of sales was more than double that of both its closest competitors; Amazon’s Fire TV was present on 12 percent of devices sold, while Samsung’s Tizen could be found on 11 percent.

The figures don’t necessarily mean that Roku is selling millions of its standalone streaming devices, though. Along with being used on streaming boxes like the Roku Premiere, Roku’s straightforward software is also used as the built-in operating system for smart TVs such as those from TCL, JVC, Sharp, Philips US, and others.

The data suggests Roku has a large lead over its competitors.
According to Strategy Analytics, the five most popular streaming devices run software from Roku, PlayStation, Xbox, Samsung (Tizen), and Google, which includes Android TV as well as Chromecast devices.

Despite its perceived popularity and strong sales, Amazon’s Fire TV platform is in sixth place in terms of devices currently in use. These figures suggest that most people are content to use their TV’s built-in apps to stream video or rely on a gaming console they already own for entertainment. The days of the dedicated streaming boxes are hardly over, but it seems like most people aren’t rushing to buy a standalone set-top box nowadays.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/2/20679060/roku-smart-tv-os-streaming-fire-tv-amazon-google-tizen
December 17th, 2020 at 8:16:38 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Pacomartin
I think the lack of support for Roku has been a big part of HBO Max's failure.


I had no idea
I easily watched the service using Xbox, laptop or phone
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December 17th, 2020 at 3:22:57 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: terapined
I had no idea
I easily watched the service using Xbox, laptop or phone


I'm sure it is other things as well. HBO Max is the same price as Netflix. At present the services have
Netflix 3856 movies, 1854 TV series
HBO Max 1835 movies, 507 TV series
Disney+ 878 movies, 271 TV series

Now HBO Max tries to argue that it has better quality movies and TV series than Netflix. I think that for the most part that is true. But people are not anxious to differentiate, and they go for Netflix first. But if Roku has far and away the most streaming devices in use, it doesn't make a lot of sense to cut them out.



Roku commands 45% of viewing time on streaming devices, Fire TV 19%, XBox 20%, etc.
December 17th, 2020 at 4:09:02 PM permalink
Gandler
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I started watching the Flight Attendant, two episodes in. Its pretty good. It's really the only "HBO MAX original" that looked intriguing to me (I'm open to suggestions).

I very much like His Dark Materials (they do the books justice), but you can watch that on regular HBO. Excellent show.

There really is not a huge amount of Max originals (and not really any that look amazing)... Most HBO stuff that I really enjoy is on regular HBO. And, I am not huge on the HBO Max interface, so I prefer to just watch stuff on HBO on demand if there is the option (which again there is for most all series, very few Max originals yet).... It feels like Max is just a gimmick to compete with other streaming services.
December 17th, 2020 at 6:12:09 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Gandler
And, I am not huge on the HBO Max interface, so I prefer to just watch stuff on HBO on demand if there is the option (which again there is for most all series, very few Max originals yet).... It feels like Max is just a gimmick to compete with other streaming services.


The largest cable companies are still offering traditional TV, but some of the companies like Wow (half a million subscribers) are no longer offering TV as a service. There is increasingly millions of people not getting traditional cable or satellite TV.
It is not just a gimmick, but increasingly the only way some of these companies can grow.





Sparklight (Cable One) Number of Subscribers: 818,330
Mediacom Number of Subscribers: 829,000
Frontier Communications Number of Subscribers: 961,000
Altice USA Number of Subscribers: 3,300,000
Cox Communications Number of Subscribers: 4,132,000
Verizon Number of Subscribers: 4,400,000
Dish Network Number of Subscribers: 12,060,000
Comcast Number of Subscribers: 21,650,000
Charter Communications Number of Subscribers: 26,000,000
AT&T Number of Subscribers: 22,360,000

Also if you look at movies this year, of all the films earning more than $50 million at the box office, only one made over 50% in the domestic market.
Domestic share of box office
48.18% Bad Boys For Life
15.99% Tenet
47.89% Sonic The Hedgehog
30.81% Dolittle
41.69% Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation…
46.83% The Invisible Man
46.32% Onward
58.07% The Call of the Wild
32.20% The Croods: A New Age

Television is basically looking at the movies and see their future growth in international marketing with captions. The only way to access that market is via streaming.
December 17th, 2020 at 6:17:10 PM permalink
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I am surprised that Charter is bigger than ATT.
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December 17th, 2020 at 6:36:21 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: Pacomartin
The largest cable companies are still offering traditional TV, but some of the companies like Wow (half a million subscribers) are no longer offering TV as a service. There is increasingly millions of people not getting traditional cable or satellite TV.
It is not just a gimmick, but increasingly the only way some of these companies can grow.





Sparklight (Cable One) Number of Subscribers: 818,330
Mediacom Number of Subscribers: 829,000
Frontier Communications Number of Subscribers: 961,000
Altice USA Number of Subscribers: 3,300,000
Cox Communications Number of Subscribers: 4,132,000
Verizon Number of Subscribers: 4,400,000
Dish Network Number of Subscribers: 12,060,000
Comcast Number of Subscribers: 21,650,000
Charter Communications Number of Subscribers: 26,000,000
AT&T Number of Subscribers: 22,360,000


I have never heard of WOW (well in the cable context, World of Warcraft comes to mind).

But, I have no doubt streaming is the future. I was just commenting, I am not huge on Max's interface and it does not have much original content to compelling me to be loyal -to overcome the inconvenience when I can already watch HBO in a better format for now.

I am sure it will improve (it certainly has the budget to), but for now, with the exception of "The Flight Attendant" , I see no advantage to use HBO Max..... Are there any other critically acclaimed originals that I am missing, that are only available on Max? I just don't see the need to use the app when the channel and HBO on demand are options...... (better options in my opinion and preference)....
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