Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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August 25th, 2020 at 11:56:57 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote:

Brad Parscale, President Trump's former campaign manager, said Monday night that he watched the Republican National Convention on CNN after Fox News aired commentary instead of some speeches.

"Can't believe I have to watch the convention on @CNN. Unbelievable. @FoxNews," Parscale wrote while Fox News cut away from a convention speech by Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk for a Tucker Carlson interview with Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.).


Is Fox News ashamed of some of what is being said?
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 25th, 2020 at 12:49:25 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Tanko
Those Whites that tried to stop the boycott and conduct mass arrests, were all Democrats.

Those people that insisted Blacks sit in the back of the bus were all Democrats.

The Governor and Mayor were both Democrats.

Democrats wrote the laws that required Blacks to ride the back of the bus.

Democrats passed the literacy laws and poll taxes designed to keep Blacks from voting.

With the help of the media, they've been dumbing down the public for the past sixty years.


The bus company was ready to settle after a week or so. Democrats in power would not change the law.
The President is a fink.
August 25th, 2020 at 12:54:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
Please tell me you are joking?


Why do you engage with him?
It's a vast waste of time.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 25th, 2020 at 12:57:24 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
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Quote: rxwine
Is Fox News ashamed of some of what is being said?


Try and keep up. FOX is going more and
more center/left, I haven't watched
them in months. Ever since Ailes
died they are more and more
unwatchable. Much better on Youttube
with all the independent journalists.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 25th, 2020 at 1:09:40 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: rxwine
Is Fox News ashamed of some of what is being said?

Not that I am interested
Watching the Luka Doncic show tonight
anyway
Is the convention directly streamed?
Can you watch the convention outside the news networks?
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August 25th, 2020 at 2:27:13 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: AZDuffman
Spanish-American War was not for gain? We did it all for poor little Cuba? Not so much. We did it to both eject a European power from Cuba and at the same time put our own influence there. Cuba is the key to the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico is the key to exports from the USA heartland. If Spain had not been ejected WWI and WWII might have been very different, there might have been kraut U-boat bases there.


It was not just Cuba, we also liberated the Philippines from the Spanish Empire.

We did not demand money from them in return. All we got out of it was a naval base (which we pay rent for). America does not pillage countries (despite what some people say), we give freedom to other countries. Now, you can be against a war, but, you can't say America is out to annex the world, because that is historically not true (maybe with the exception of Native Americans, but that is different because that is in our borders)....



Quote: AZDuffman
Because it is not worth keeping. It is a part of the world where the two sides need to fight it out on their own.


I don't agree. But, I doubt I will change your mind.
All I will say, the day after we pull out the Taliban and other factions will dominate.....



Quote: AZDuffman
Nixon got us out because the war and the peace were unwinable. SV could not stand on its own two feet no matter how much help we gave them. The war was bleeding us dry. Johnson made the mess of the second half of the 20th there. Nixon did the right thing. Cut losses and go home.


It could have been winnable with more time and more resources. It was less clear-cut than Korea (Army on Army action), lots more insurgent groups in friendly territories, making it hard to win with convential tactics.



Quote: AZDuffman
Because long wars are a bad thing! Long wars drain a country of men and materials. They are bad for national morale. Then they require long occupations, which the USA is not good at nor do Americans like much. The Brits did well at occupations, the only occupations the USA handled well were Germany and Japan, the style of which would not be tolerated today.

Above all, the US Military needs the rest Trump has given it. We have been at a war tempo since 2001. One mission after another. This wears out men and equipment. It makes recruiting harder. It strains everything. Get out of Afghanistan. Quit bombing Syria. Stop jumping at the desire to right every little wrong. Learn to let proxies fight more.


Wars are not always a bad thing. I am not a pacifist, I don't glorify war, not many are necessary. There are millions of people living in despotic countries.
And, to nation build you need long wars, it does not happen overnight.

The British did well at occupation because they were actually an empire (controlled the area they occupied). We are always there as a support force to support the right side, not to colonize a country.
August 25th, 2020 at 2:27:19 PM permalink
Tripdufan
Member since: Oct 3, 2019
Threads: 0
Posts: 710
Quote: Tanko
Those Whites that tried to stop the boycott and conduct mass arrests, were all Democrats.

Those people that insisted Blacks sit in the back of the bus were all Democrats.

The Governor and Mayor were both Democrats.

Democrats wrote the laws that required Blacks to ride the back of the bus.

Democrats passed the literacy laws and poll taxes designed to keep Blacks from voting.

With the help of the media, they've been dumbing down the public for the past sixty years.


Acting like Jim Crow was about political affiliation and not geography is disingenuous and you know it.

It's true, the Southern Strategy changed things/parties quite a bit. Republicans saw an opening to court racist southern voters and they embraced it.

Today? As a result?

"You might not be a racist if you are a Republican. But if you are a racist, you are probably a Republican."
August 25th, 2020 at 2:31:19 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 18255
Quote: Tripdufan
Acting like Jim Crow was about political affiliation and not geography is disingenuous and you know it.

It's true, the Southern Strategy changed things/parties quite a bit. Republicans saw an opening to court racist southern voters and they embraced it.

Today? As a result?

"You might not be a racist if you are a Republican. But if you are a racist, you are probably a Republican."


This is a pile of nonsense. You cannot give any good examples of racism and the GOP. We can give many about the Democrat Party. Today the Democrat Party is racist against whites instead of Blacks.

The "Southern Strategy" was not about racism. It was about showing how out of step the Democrat Party had become with mainstream America.

We challenge you to show how the GOP is now some "party of racism."
The President is a fink.
August 25th, 2020 at 2:34:06 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
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Quote: Gandler




It could have been winnable with more time and more resources. It was less clear-cut than Korea (Army on Army action), lots more insurgent groups in friendly territories, making it hard to win with convential tactics.


No, it could not have ever been won. The only chance to win was to cross the DMZ and occupy all of NV. That was never going to happen. Even if that happened it would have been years of a brutal occupation and lots of insurgents to put down. There was no stomach for any of that.

Nation Building is a losing business.
The President is a fink.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:08:17 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 189
Posts: 18816
Quote: AZDuffman
This is a pile of nonsense. You cannot give any good examples of racism and the GOP. We can give many about the Democrat Party. Today the Democrat Party is racist against whites instead of Blacks.


AS if you would know.
You go wave that flag emblem you were forced to get rid of on the other board in front of a lot of blacks and get back to us.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?