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Opinions on trend toward CVT cars
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| December 26th, 2021 at 9:03:57 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | GMC = Garage Mechanic Called You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| December 27th, 2021 at 5:14:02 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11803 |
GM has really gone downhill with their trucks They used to have great quality Neck and neck with Ford They got cheap, cut back on quality Ford zoomed right past them Now they are struggling to beat Dodge I would never buy a GM truck Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| December 27th, 2021 at 8:50:29 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
That's an exagerration. Dodge has very limited sales anymore. GMC sold more Sierras for the first 9 months of this year than Dodge sold total vehicles. 2 Viper 5 Dart 61,498 Charger - Mid-size car 44,142 Challenger - Sports car 2,956 Caravan - Minivan 13,827 Journey - Sport utility vehicle 52,931 Durango - Sport utility vehicle 175,361 Dodge Total 54,652 Sierra HD 136,534 Sierra LD 191,186 TOTAL GMC Sierra 414,389 Chevy Silverado 663,507 Ford F-series in US 156,680 Ford F-series in Canada |
| December 27th, 2021 at 9:16:26 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Trump argued that people are keeping older vehicles because they are distrustful of expensive new technology. There certainly is an element of truth to that statement. People are cherishing their old Ford pickups with 4 or 6 speeds, and avoiding the new 10 speed transmissions. |
| December 27th, 2021 at 11:28:53 AM permalink | |
| JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 |
I think he meant Ram. I still think of Ram as a Dodge brand as well. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |
| December 27th, 2021 at 12:23:43 PM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11803 |
I meant Ram Its not Dodge? WTF So much change in the car world I think Jaguar, the iconic British brand, is now an India company Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| December 27th, 2021 at 1:33:10 PM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 96 Posts: 3103 | he best-selling light trucks in the United States in 2020 (in units) Mfr. Number of trucks sold Ford F-Series 787,422 Chevrolet Silverado 586,675 Ram Pickup 563,676 GMC Sierra 253,016 |
| December 27th, 2021 at 1:36:36 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | 
Ram Trucks left Dodge andwas established as a division of Chrysler in 2010 and became its own brand when Chrysler was acquired by Fiat on January 21, 2014. Stellantis was formed on 16 January 2021, so it is still less than a year old. 434,772 Ram Pickup sales in the US for the first 9 months of 2021; $58,565 average transaction price Nov 2021 for Ram 191,186 GMC Sierra sales in the US for the first 9 months of 2021; $62,839 average transaction price Nov 2021 for GMC It is hard to find average transaction prices for individual models, but as the pickups are the dominant model for the Ram and GMC brands, comparing ATP for the entire brand will have to do I would say GMC has already lost to Ram. Stellantis has guaranteed 10 years for all 14 of its brands, but unless Chrysler begins rebadging French cars, there is very little hope of them outliving the 10 years. Some speculation about Dodge, but the Challenger and Charger are going to become electric muscle cars. United States sales (first 9 months of 2021) 604,671 Jeep 495,410 Ram 175,361 Dodge 74,139 Chrysler 14,193 Alfa Romeo 2,107 Fiat |
| December 27th, 2021 at 1:59:23 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 | Ram has come so far the past 30 years. Pre-1993 it was not even taken seriously. Soon it might be the #2 pickup. GMC is kind of there so Buick dealers can be more viable. The President is a fink. |
| December 27th, 2021 at 2:09:52 PM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 96 Posts: 3103 | I once owned a '72 Dodge p/u 2WD with a 318 and automatic that was a solid, nearly indestructible rig. Toward the end of its life we beat the bark off it, boonie bashing etc: my son rolled it on a hill but it kept on chugging. Now he drives a Ram 3500 with turbo diesel and swears by it: I've been in it, very nice rig. He uses it for towing RV's of various sizes and configurations and says it's a real beast. |