California court rules in favor of baker refusing to bake a gay cake.

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October 28th, 2022 at 4:07:58 PM permalink
rxwine
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There’s all kinds of weddings.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
October 28th, 2022 at 4:15:47 PM permalink
rxwine
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Anyway I was asking if a naked Adam and Eve on a cake is porno, just to be clear. As I said, it’s pre sin Adam and Eve. When they show them covering up this is fallen Adam and Eve about to be cast out by God.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
October 28th, 2022 at 4:20:56 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: rxwine
I'm mostly interested how many cakes were made for divorced people and what form of Christianity they are following where they pick and choose to discriminate against gays and not certain divorced people who are also knowingly going against what is stated, See my quote earlier.


Oh I fully agree Christians and terrible and do not understand the bible. No Christian baker should bake a cake for a wedding of somebody who was divorced (or more specifically a divorced woman). But, they do not understand the bible so what can you do....

This is actually why I don't have a problem with "biblical literacy tests" to vote (in the meta sense, obviously its a silly idea) it would ban almost all extremists from voting, and the only group who would solidly pass are atheists.


https://cslr.law.emory.edu/news/releases/2012/02/what-jesus-said-marriage-and-divorce.html#.Y1xhqbbMK3A


The bible also never bans abortion (actually the bible does not even view a fetus as murder, if you cause a woman to miscarry against her will by violence the penalty is a small fine), and even if you view abortion as murder, the bible is pretty okay with mass killing so.......
October 28th, 2022 at 5:52:28 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: rxwine
There’s all kinds of weddings.


I’m sure Duffman is an absolute blast at weddings. I bet everyone just clamors to be in his presence.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
October 29th, 2022 at 9:19:32 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Oh I fully agree Christians and terrible and do not understand the bible. No Christian baker should bake a cake for a wedding of somebody who was divorced (or more specifically a divorced woman). But, they do not understand the bible so what can you do....

This is actually why I don't have a problem with "biblical literacy tests" to vote (in the meta sense, obviously its a silly idea) it would ban almost all extremists from voting, and the only group who would solidly pass are atheists.


https://cslr.law.emory.edu/news/releases/2012/02/what-jesus-said-marriage-and-divorce.html#.Y1xhqbbMK3A


The bible also never bans abortion (actually the bible does not even view a fetus as murder, if you cause a woman to miscarry against her will by violence the penalty is a small fine), and even if you view abortion as murder, the bible is pretty okay with mass killing so.......


So great of you to tell bakers how to run their business.
The President is a fink.
October 29th, 2022 at 9:26:18 AM permalink
Gandler
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So great of you to tell bakers how to run their business.


Not me, Federal Discrimination laws (and established case law).
October 29th, 2022 at 10:58:43 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Not me, Federal Discrimination laws (and established case law).


Then why did you tell her them how to run their business?

I am guessing that you do not think Facebook and other sites have the right to ban views they do not like then?
The President is a fink.
October 29th, 2022 at 11:36:58 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Then why did you tell her them how to run their business?

I am guessing that you do not think Facebook and other sites have the right to ban views they do not like then?


You do realize I agreed with the ruling? I am not sure what you are arguing with at this point.

Social Media sites have the right to ban people for posting content that violates their policy, they cannot ban somebody for any protected status.
October 29th, 2022 at 1:52:44 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
You do realize I agreed with the ruling? I am not sure what you are arguing with at this point.

Social Media sites have the right to ban people for posting content that violates their policy, they cannot ban somebody for any protected status.


What’s the difference? If they are free to ban people bakers should be too. They should actually be held to a higher standard being common carriers of sorts.
The President is a fink.
October 30th, 2022 at 12:05:50 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
What’s the difference? If they are free to ban people bakers should be too. They should actually be held to a higher standard being common carriers of sorts.


They are not free to ban for discriminatory reasons, just like the baker is not. If Facebook banned people for being gay they would be sued (and probably fined).

Businesses can ban whoever they want as long as the reason for the ban is not based off of their membership in a protected class (you can ban a gay man, but you can't ban them for being gay. You can ban a veteran, you can't ban somebody for being a veteran, you can ban insert race, but you can't ban them simply for being that race, etc....)

If your only reason for not offering goods, employment, or a service to somebody, is only because somebody is a member of a protected class that is illegal. However, they can be banned like anyone else for breaking any other rule.
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