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November 16th, 2023 at 3:26:40 PM permalink
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4182	Quote: ams288 It’s posts like this that make my relationship with ams love/hate. I LOVE that post!

November 19th, 2023 at 4:59:25 AM permalink

rxwine

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Australia alleges that Chinese navy attacked divers with sonar
As per the "Associated Press" agency, the frigate HMAS Toowoomba was sailing in international waters within Japan's exclusive economic zone en route to a planned port visit. The vessel had to make an unscheduled stop when fishing nets entangled its propellers.

Divers were dispatched underwater to rectify the issue. As per the Australian report, during this time, the ship was signaling warnings about the ongoing underwater operations.

During the operation, the Chinese destroyer PLA-N DDG-139 allegedly approached the Toowoomba, causing the Australian vessel's crew to reassert their alert about the ongoing operations and urge the Chinese vessel to maintain a safe distance.

In a statement issued on November 18, Acting Australian Prime Minister Richard Marles revealed that despite receiving the warning, the Chinese vessel drew even nearer.

Shortly thereafter, the destroyer was observed using a hull-mounted sonar, posing a danger to the Australian divers. Upon surfacing, the sailors were examined and found to have sustained minor injuries, likely due to the sonar pulses, Marles added.

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

November 19th, 2023 at 7:03:43 AM permalink
Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 1988	Chinese Navy Rules The Seas US Navy Total Active Ships 2017 342 2019 752 2023 365 Expected to shrink to 280 ships in 2027. China is once again pressuring Argentina to build a naval base in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego province, which would mean opening the door to Antarctica for Beijing.

November 19th, 2023 at 8:12:14 AM permalink
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 649	Quote: Tanko Chinese Navy Rules The Seas US Navy Total Active Ships 2017 342 2019 752 2023 365 Expected to shrink to 280 ships in 2027. China is once again pressuring Argentina to build a naval base in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego province, which would mean opening the door to Antarctica for Beijing. What happened to those 400 ships from 2019 to 2023?

November 19th, 2023 at 8:33:15 AM permalink
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4973	Quote: Tanko Chinese Navy Rules The Seas I couldn't disagree more. They may have the most ships but they are very substandard by U.S. specs. They don't have range and they don't have many friendly ports around the globe for refueling and maintenance. They are very isolated to their area of the globe. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.

November 19th, 2023 at 9:58:47 AM permalink
Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 1988	Quote: GenoDRPh What happened to those 400 ships from 2019 to 2023? More accurate figures from three different sources: 2017 279 Ships 2019 296 2023 280 'US can’t keep up with China’s warship building, Navy Secretary says'

November 19th, 2023 at 4:46:29 PM permalink

Gandler

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Quote: Tanko
More accurate figures from three different sources:

2017 279 Ships
2019 296
2023 280

'US can’t keep up with China’s warship building, Navy Secretary says'

President Obama said all there is to say. I do not understand your guy's obsession with raw number of ships....

Also, China still does not have a Blue Water Navy (and may not until the 2030s...) China Navy is a threat compared to say Russia as they were discussing, but not a significant competitor.

November 19th, 2023 at 5:30:39 PM permalink

GenoDRPh

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Chinese Navy Rules The Seas

US Navy Total Active Ships

2017 342
2019 752
2023 365

Expected to shrink to 280 ships in 2027.

China is once again pressuring Argentina to build a naval base in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego province, which would mean opening the door to Antarctica for Beijing.

New President -elect of Argentina said he's going to disengage with China and more closely ally with the US, including dollarizing the economy.

November 20th, 2023 at 2:54:37 AM permalink

Tanko

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New President -elect of Argentina said he's going to disengage with China and more closely ally with the US, including dollarizing the economy.

China currently operates twelve Chinese military-run 'space stations' in South America.

'The reactions of the international community, especially the U.S. and the European Union, to the Chinese advance are one of concern, not only because of their position in space but given that the investments are intended to monitor, spy on and collect information from the satellites of the Atlantic Alliance countries.'

The spy station they operate in Argentina became operational in 2017 under a bilateral agreement, and Argentina is probably stuck with it. It depends on what kind of man the new president is.

Trump Forces China Out of Port of Long Beach Terminal Ownership after Obama gives them a forty-year lease

Out Maneuvered:

'China expands its presence in South America with massive Peru port'

When the US gave up control over the Panama Canal in 1999, the Chinese company Hutchison Whampoa signed a 25 year lease with the Panamanian government to run the canal. They recently renewed the lease for another 25 years.

'Losing strategic control of the Panama Canal to the People’s Republic of China'

November 20th, 2023 at 3:07:35 AM permalink
Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 1988	Quote: Gandler China Navy is a threat compared to say Russia as they were discussing, but not a significant competitor. Any navy that can fire nuclear missiles at us is a significant competitor. Follow the trend. The size of our Navy is shrinking, while theirs is increasing.

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