BIG BANG THEORY renewed for another three years

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August 6th, 2014 at 7:43:20 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
The show was getting an unprecedented average of $634K per minute. Figuring an average of 7 minutes of ads per show (say 8 since including before and after) is $5 million per episode in advertising. Now the salaries of the entire cast must be getting close to that figure. So the show is produced at a loss. The revenue from the show is coming from soft sources (like the fact that it creates a hit show out of whatever follows).


You're missing at least two other sources: 1) the show runs in Latin America on cable and surely in other countries, both new eps and reruns. 2) DVD sales of past seasons. Surely this increases the average revenue per ad minute of new show.
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August 6th, 2014 at 8:36:45 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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You're missing at least two other sources: 1) the show runs in Latin America on cable and surely in other countries, both new eps and reruns. 2) DVD sales of past seasons. Surely this increases the average revenue per ad minute of new show.


They don't run the current season on cable. But with 24 episodes per year, and sometimes doubling up episodes, they certainly air a show twice per year. Maybe they don't get $5 million in advertising the second time around, but I am sure it isn't peanuts. I did forget about overseas airings. DVD sales and downloads are probably not a big deal, since most people are reluctant to pay for something which is free and widely available.

But with the show in syndication for over three years, I am sure revenue already exceeds $1 billion.

May 15, 2010 ‘Big Bang Theory’ Sets $2M-Per-Episode Syndie Record: TBS ($1.5+M) And Fox Broadcast Stations ($500K) What a huge haul for Warner Bros Domestic TV Distribution. That shatters the previous record of $1M for a sitcom cable sale fetched by Seinfeld in its first deal with TBS.

So that deal was announced a week before the season three, May 24, 2010 finale. The first three seasons were 63 episodes for which the three actors were paid $60K per episode. So in a sense the current contract is partly back pay for those earlier episodes which are now generating a lot of money.
August 6th, 2014 at 9:24:04 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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It seems to be that recording artists used to sign contracts but if they made it big, it was "renegotiate or we walk".

Same thing with actors. If its a really big hit the producers are screwed.

That Ditzy Blonde had her career ruined by producers who would not buy her contract out and would not give her a raise and she spent the rest of her life doing infomercials for leg lifting exercises. The reward is supposed to be linked to the entrepreneurial risk. The actor risks little after an initial fame and fortune is gained.
August 6th, 2014 at 9:44:52 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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At the peak of his Two and a Half Men career, Charlie Sheen was making $1.25 million per episode. That amount grows to $2 million when you include back end syndication points. If he was replaced, then there is really anyone who can be replaced. Charlie Sheen made 178 episodes, while Ashton Kutcher will probably make 82 episodes.
August 6th, 2014 at 9:53:48 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
They don't run the current season on cable.


Not in America. In Mexico and Latin America the show runs only a few weeks behind the US schedule, on a cable channel.

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So in a sense the current contract is partly back pay for those earlier episodes which are now generating a lot of money.


That's typical in multi-year deals. Pro athletes face something similar, in a way, as many are basically underpaid the first few years.

Of course with actors things are more precarious.
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November 16th, 2014 at 7:51:15 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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All four Lorre comedies renewed for next year
2007-2014 The Big Bang Theory (TV Series) (executive producer - 153 episodes)
2003-2014 Two and a Half Men (TV Series) (executive producer - 217 episodes)
2010-2014 Mike & Molly (TV Series) (executive producer - 81 episodes)
2013 Mom (TV Series) (executive producer - 4 episodes)
Chuck Lorre's "Mom" with Anna Faris can be vulgar, but not in the completely arbitrary way that 2.5 Men can be. I think the writing is much more purposeful. I hope it is renewed.

Chuck and I share a birthday, and we definitely share a similar sense of what's funny, with 2 1/2 men being the exception.


Well it looks as if Chuck Lorre remains the supreme overlord of the Sitcom. Ratings for "Mom" have gone up, and all sitcoms on CBS may soon be Chuck Lorre productions.

CBS Sitcoms
The McCarthys WEAK RATINGS
The Millers : Cancelled
Two and a Half Men: 12th and final season
2 Broke Girls: SOLID RATINGS
Mom: SOLID RATINGS
The Big Bang Theory: already renewed

ABC Sitcoms
Manhattan Love Story: canceled
Cristela: (Friday Night) WEAK RATINGS, but possibly OK for Friday
Selfie: cancelled
Last Man Standing (Friday Night): Solid ratings for a Friday
The Middle : Solid ratings
The Goldbergs: Solid ratings
black-ish: FRESHMAN HIT
Modern Family: Only Sitcom anywhere near TBBT

FOX Sitcoms
Mulaney: cancelled, airing remaining episodes
The Mindy Project: Poor ratings but still renewed. New low standard for television shows
New Girl: Poor ratings but high for young adults
Bob's Burgers: DECENT RATINGS animated
Brooklyn Nine-Nine: HIGH RATINGS
Family Guy : HIGH RATINGS animated
The Simpsons: HIGH RATINGS animated (may last 50 years)

NBC Sitcoms
A to Z: cancelled, airing remaining episodes
Bad Judge: cancelled, airing remaining episodes
About A Boy: WEAK RATINGS
Marry Me: WEAK RATINGS
Parks & Recreation: final season
NBC really needs to simply give up on sitcoms and go to an all drama, sports, and reality lineup
November 17th, 2014 at 8:34:22 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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I look at the list and see how few shows I've even heard of much less watched once ... and you can forget about being some sort of loyal listener who even watches the commercials much less remembers them.

So New Girl may deliver a good market segment in a weak manner.... maybe its sufficient these days.

What does this Chuck Lorre have that others don't? Talent? I thought there was nothing cheaper than talent. Or are the better scripts going to where the money is?
November 17th, 2014 at 4:18:49 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
I look at the list and see how few shows I've even heard of much less watched once ... and you can forget about being some sort of loyal listener who even watches the commercials much less remembers them.


Well, the country has turned away from network Sitcoms. Chronicling their travails is a lot like watching the death of variety shows in the 1970's.

Quote: Fleastiff
So New Girl may deliver a good market segment in a weak manner.... maybe its sufficient these days.

It actually gets high ad revenue (behind TBBT, Modern Family, and Simpsons). Small audience but the correct age group. The "Mindy Project" on Fox gets very low ratings, but they are high income. It is possible that they think the show will do well in syndication.

Quote: Fleastiff
What does this Chuck Lorre have that others don't? Talent? I thought there was nothing cheaper than talent. Or are the better scripts going to where the money is?


No doubt success breeds success. A movie's success depends partly on release date, but TV success is still very dependent on time slot and lead in. It was thought that Video on Demand and DVR would reduce the importance of original show time, but it has only made a dent.

Of course, 22 years ago 5 of the top 10 shows were sitcoms, including Roseanne where Chuck Lorre and Johnny Galecki first rose to fame.
Roseanne (2/20.7)
Home Improvement (3/19.2)
Coach (6/17.5)
Cheers (8/16.1)
Full House (10/15.8)

Of course, there is always that guessing game about which comedian, tv showrunner, actor, hip hop artist, or supermodel will be the first billionaire in the world.
Oprah is the notable onscreen persona | actress who became a billionaire, but most media billionaires are behind the scenes people.


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November 19th, 2014 at 4:40:38 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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NBC Sitcoms
A to Z: cancelled, airing remaining episodes
Bad Judge: cancelled, airing remaining episodes
About A Boy: WEAK RATINGS
Marry Me: WEAK RATINGS
Parks & Recreation: final season
NBC really needs to simply give up on sitcoms and go to an all drama, sports, and reality lineup


Well it looks like NBC's plan to revive a sitcom with Bill Cosby is not going to pan out.
November 19th, 2014 at 4:57:08 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin


Well it looks like NBC's plan to revive a sitcom with Bill Cosby is not going to pan out.


He was planning on a reborn career at
78. Betty White is still going strong at 90.
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