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March 9th, 2023 at 11:02:53 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: Tanko
Soverign Citizen traffic stops never end well. This one had only fifteen minutes left to live.

Why didn't the cops do the right thing
Pull him out, give him a ticket and impound the car
Was a weapon ever pointed at a cop?
These officers could have chosen to deescalate
They escalated immediately when they yelled gun
With Republicans pushing open carry, more and more cars will have a gun
Is this open season on drivers that are just armed????
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
March 9th, 2023 at 11:15:52 AM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Posts: 4242
Here's an example of the license plate.

Last link is the classification.

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https://www.amazon.com/Sovereign-Citizen-Photo-License-Plate/dp/B08JMCHN32

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Domestic Terrorism

The Sovereign Citizen Movement

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2010/april/sovereigncitizens_041310/domestic-terrorism-the-sovereign-citizen-movement

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March 9th, 2023 at 11:26:21 AM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Black outfit is OK (for now).

But whatever you do, don't wear a Red Cap or use a Sovereign License Plate.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene to introduce bill designating antifa a terrorist organization

March 06, 2023

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/mtg-introduce-bill-designating-antifa-terrorist-organization

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March 9th, 2023 at 12:09:32 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/karine-jean-pierre-dodges-question-unvaxxed-tennis-player-djokovic-abide-countrys-rule

Gee
Right wing news and DeSantis are upset the US Govt is not giving a Tennis player special treatment
Oh well
Rules are rules
He can wait till May when the US allows unvaccinated visitors
Until then, Fox, DeSantis and that tennis player can pound sand
Djokovic can easily play if he really wants to
Just get a jab
No biggie
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
March 9th, 2023 at 12:40:23 PM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: DoubleGold
Here's an example of the license plate.


Instead of a license plate, he was displaying a placard stating his 'constitutional sovereignty'.

Officers tried to extract him from the vehicle as they are trained to do, when a person refuses to comply.

Switched his cellphone to his left hand to free his right hand. Officers aledge he was reaching for his gun. Holster was on his right side. When he was pulled from the car, the holster was empty and the gun was on the floor of the car. Got shot twelve times for his troubles.
March 9th, 2023 at 1:24:17 PM permalink
odiousgambit
Member since: Oct 28, 2012
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Posts: 6378
this video explains some of the things going on here that can make things go south, even supposing the dude was not grabbing his gun

I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me]
March 9th, 2023 at 2:11:31 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 57
Posts: 5896
On the rare occasion that I get pulled over my hands stay on the steering wheel until they ask me to retrieve something.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
March 9th, 2023 at 2:14:17 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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I always keep one hand on the steering wheel and one on the liquor bottle.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
March 9th, 2023 at 2:17:49 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 57
Posts: 5896
Quote: rxwine
I always keep one hand on the steering wheel and one on the liquor bottle.


I have thrown that out the window during the high speed pursuit.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
March 10th, 2023 at 6:31:34 AM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Posts: 4242
Thank-you.

I forgive you.

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Dear Conservatives, I Apologize

My "Team" was Taken in By Full-Spectrum Propaganda

Dr Naomi Wolf

3/10/2023

There is no way to avoid this moment. The formal letter of apology. From me. To Conservatives and to those who “put America first” everywhere.

It’s tempting to sweep this confrontation with my own gullibility under the rug — to “move on” without ever acknowledging that I was duped, and that as a result I made mistakes in judgement, and that these mistakes, multiplied by the tens of thousands and millions on the part of people just like me, hurt millions of other people like you all, in existential ways.

But that erasure of personal and public history would be wrong.

I owe you a full-throated apology.

I believed a farrago of lies. And, as a result of these lies, and my credulity — and the credulity of people similarly situated to me - many conservatives’ reputations are being tarnished, on false bases.

The proximate cause of this letter of apology is the airing, two nights ago, of excepts from tens of thousands of hours of security camera footage from the United States Capitol taken on Jan 6, 2021. The footage was released by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson [https://www.axios.com/2023/03/08/mccarthy-defends-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news].

While “fact-checkers” state that it is “misinformation” to claim that Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Capitol Police on that day [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/], the fact is that the USCP is under the oversight of Congress, according to — the United States Capitol Police: [https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight].

This would be the same Congress that convened the January 6 Committee subsequently, and that used millions of dollars in taxpayer money to turn that horrible day, and that tragic event, into a message point that would be used to tar a former President as a would-be terrorist, and to smear all Republicans, by association, as “insurrectionists,” or as insurrectionists’ sympathizers and fellow-travelers.
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https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry

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