ISIS ransom

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August 23rd, 2014 at 1:39:50 PM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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Quote: Evenbob
Krauthammer made a good point. We have 2000 years
of history that teaches us how to deal with religious
extremists. You can't reason or negotiate with them,
all you can do is wipe them out. It will come to that,
hopefully sooner than later. I hope it doesn't take a
big hit in this country to wake people up.


Some idiots would rather say that they are the JV or that they just have a different point of view from us...history may well repeat itself as vigilance and desire to protect ourselves goes away more and more each year. The TSA can check to see if my undershorts are on right; they should be working to find the real bad guys...along with a lot of other people...
August 23rd, 2014 at 2:44:09 PM permalink
1nickelmiracle
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I always wondered if it's just theater. We aren't protected anywhere from anything and nothing seems to ever happen. Killing people is physically an easy thing to do after all isn't it? You have the Boston marathon thing and what else?
August 23rd, 2014 at 3:10:24 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: 1nickelmiracle
I always wondered if it's just theater. We aren't protected anywhere from anything and nothing seems to ever happen.


Only because of the constant diligence of what's
going on behind the scenes that we don't see.
And it's really hard to put something together
that makes a big boom now. The days of Tim
McVeith are long gone. I was watching a movie
made in 1970 and a guy who wanted to blow up
something broke into the back room of the local
hardware store and stole a bunch of dynamite.
Those days are gone too.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 23rd, 2014 at 4:32:00 PM permalink
1nickelmiracle
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Quote: Evenbob
Only because of the constant diligence of what's
going on behind the scenes that we don't see.
And it's really hard to put something together
that makes a big boom now. The days of Tim
McVeith are long gone. I was watching a movie
made in 1970 and a guy who wanted to blow up
something broke into the back room of the local
hardware store and stole a bunch of dynamite.
Those days are gone too.
Also in the movie What about Bob? with the death therapy. I just don't think it's too hard. Lots of people have chemistry degrees and don't need anything made for them. Yeah some chemicals are tracked but you know how effective laws are at preventing things.
August 23rd, 2014 at 4:39:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Little booms are easy, big booms that blow
up buildings are very difficult now.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 23rd, 2014 at 7:07:26 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 189
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Quote: Evenbob
Little booms are easy, big booms that blow
up buildings are very difficult now.


What's hard about blowing up a big empty inside space with natural gas?

http://archive.indystar.com/article/20131109/NEWS02/311090028/Richmond-Hill-explosion-year-later-time-healing


Quote:
Wounds are an easy metaphor to use to talk about the recovery of Richmond Hill. Many wounds remain and they’re in various stages of healing. Some have scarred over, some are still rising to the surface. And the approaches to healing are as varied as the scores of families whose lives were turned upside down at 11:08 p.m. on Nov. 10, 2012.

For Glenn Olvey, the physical wounds that remain — the shrapnel still imbedded in his legs, arm, back and head — are a minor annoyance.

More difficult to grapple with are his jangled nerves. Like many folks who experienced the explosion, Olvey finds loud noises bothersome, particularly ambulances and sirens and such. After his home and several others were consumed in flames, he has no desire to sit around bonfires, which used to be so fun. He struggles to eat because of his nerves and has dropped 50 pounds from the guy who was “north of 275” when the explosion tossed him through the house like a rag doll.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 23rd, 2014 at 7:22:49 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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As far as ISIS, I think the best option (whether other nation states like us doing it or not) is bump up our production of drones x100, and blacken the skies over these loose terrorist held territories.

Take em out one after the other, if necessary. Make them hide all the time. If they show up outside in their black ninja robes send a hellfire down on them.

24/7.

Might as well show them what terror really feels like, since they like it so much.

Actually, lots and lots of drones could do what the Neutron bomb was suppose to do. We could leave a lot intact while hitting targeted individuals or groups when they venture too far from shelter.

That would be a version of Hell. For them.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 23rd, 2014 at 7:34:43 PM permalink
1nickelmiracle
Member since: Mar 5, 2013
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We should just drop joints and pornography until they all get addicted. Then they just kill themselves and solve the problem.
August 24th, 2014 at 4:28:16 AM permalink
Fleastiff
Member since: Oct 27, 2012
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Quote: rxwine
As far as ISIS, I think the best option (whether other nation states like us doing it or not) is bump up our production of drones x100, and blacken the skies over these loose terrorist held territories.
Careful. The terorists have drones too, obtained by over powering the GPS satellites since few drones have anti hacker technology.
August 24th, 2014 at 6:14:31 AM permalink
boymimbo
Member since: Mar 25, 2013
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As long as Americans (or any other country) wage unjust/questionable wars where innocent people are killed as incidental casualties you will have a generation of people who will have a subset of its population who will do everything in their power to avenge their countryman's deaths.

Foley was beheaded. How many tens of thousands of Iraqis met similar horrific fates due to "coalition" bombs dropped from above? I know I am going to get the ire of people on this forum for this one, but when you have an overpowering and untouchable enemy, asymmetric warfare becomes your only option.

And bending over to the other party's wants isn't the solution either. I am morally outraged too, but that outrage goes back a dozen years or so now.
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