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Quote: Wizard

If this happened to my wife, yes, I would want as much revenge as possible.

I'll concede that BC had a weakness for women and was morally challenged when it came to keeping that going. However, did it amount to "high crimes and misdemeanors"? I think not. Everybody knew he wouldn't get convicted in the Senate so why waste millions in taxpayer money pursuing it, while getting almost nothing done in DC as a result.

Then again, not much gets done on a good day.

IMHO the reason for the whole trial is to put it on record. Will the Senate weigh the evidence or just rubber stamp along party lines? Then at election time the voters see.

In that note several dems were worried about voter reaction. They wanted a censure vote for cover. But thing is that the constitution has no such provision. So impeachment it was.

Quote: terapined

Its uncalled for. Skating on thin ice

Not sure if it is my imagination but seems this is not the first time you have tried to get me suspended. I dont see the fascination some have with the subject. At the once sister site there are hundreds of posts on it. Maybe thousands.

Only time I ever felt like asking for someone against me was in a blatant misquote. I forget what even happened. I moved on.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-30/trump-pokes-fun-california-protesters-felt-i-was-crossing-border-i-got-here#comments

The anti-Trump protesters are more violent than the armed occupiers at the Oregon bird sanctuary.

I remember back when there were protesters against nuclear power, who were photographed one week on the east coast and the next week on the west coast. That takes money. Some of these ATP's are paid for causing a ruckus and have now turned violent. They need to be charged with conspiracy. These people are organized and are coast to coast, they are a national security threat.

Sure, protest all they want, carry a sign, shout, chant and dress grungy. But you lay your hands on cops, you get the club. That's the deal.

The cops killed one of the Oregon guys, and they hadn't touched a cop.

Quote: petroglyph

Some of these ATP's are paid for causing a ruckus and have now turned violent. They need to be charged with conspiracy. These people are organized and are coast to coast, they are a national security threat.

You do have to wonder what is behind it all. It does look like classic storm trooper protests the likes of which have been seen in various nations over the years. The latest ones in California have to be looked at in two ways. Is it just part of the same organization following the guy place to place and whipping up the locals. Or is part of the American Southwest, part of the Mexican Cession, now so populated with Mexican decent people that there really is a back-to-mexico movement starting to brew.

I've been called crazy for predictions here before, and I really do not care if I am, but it needs to be looked at. Looked at in a detached way and not through the eyes of "WE ARE THE USA, WE ARE #1, NOBODY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE!" It happens in borderland areas and can happen here. Question has to be, "is it?"

On all the cable shows they were ringing
their hands over the protests in despair.
Yet every expert on all 3 networks, all day
and into the night, said the same thing.
Political protests always, 100% of the time,
help the person the protests are aimed
at. They've been studying it for 60 years.
In every case it boosted the recipient in
the polls. So Trump is saying, bring it on.
lol

Quote: petroglyph

I remember back when there were protesters against nuclear power, who were photographed one week on the east coast and the next week on the west coast. That takes money. Some of these ATP's are paid for causing a ruckus and have now turned violent. They need to be charged with conspiracy. These people are organized and are coast to coast, they are a national security threat..

Conspiracy?
Back in the day
I went to a Grateful dead show on the east coast
The next week you might see me at a show on the west coast
Its not a conspiracy to travel

Quote: petroglyph

The cops killed one of the Oregon guys, and they hadn't touched a cop.

I have protested at a Trump rally
The difference between me, a Trump protester, and that Oregon guy
I respect the police. I listen to their instructions. I support the police
The Oregon guy did not follow police instructions. That is something I would never ever do.
He did not respect the police. He did not support the police, He made a threatening move instead putting his hands up
The police tell me to put my hands up, I'm reaching for the sky. If the Oregon guy would do the same as this Trump protester, he would be alive.

Quote: AZDuffman

You do have to wonder what is behind it all. It does look like classic storm trooper protests the likes of which have been seen in various nations over the years. The latest ones in California have to be looked at in two ways. Is it just part of the same organization following the guy place to place and whipping up the locals. Or is part of the American Southwest, part of the Mexican Cession, now so populated with Mexican decent people that there really is a back-to-mexico movement starting to brew.

I've been called crazy for predictions here before, and I really do not care if I am, but it needs to be looked at. Looked at in a detached way and not through the eyes of "WE ARE THE USA, WE ARE #1, NOBODY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE!" It happens in borderland areas and can happen here. Question has to be, "is it?"

Que Bono?

Most topics that reach the mainstream, I view through the lense of who benefits? Follow the money trail down the rabbit hole far enough, and you find who wants these things to happen.

http://www.newnation.org/NCR/reference/NCR-Reconquistas.html "Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more"

I have long thought that the movement to return parts of the southwest to Mexico doesn't make economic sense for those that seem to support the idea?

Say NM, AZ. and Calif. are returned to Mexico. What would that do to the wages and benefits of everyone living in those areas? What would it do for the cartels? Somebody makes a fortune by changing the rules, and it is seldom the workers. Who benefits if the min. wage in LA goes from 10$ to 3$ ? That's one of the things people didn't understand about NAFTA when Clinton spoke of global wage arbitrage and all the numbskulls cheered for it. It never was about bringing up 3rd world wages, it was always about lowering 1st world wages, same as the TPP, etc. None of these trade deals are done, to help me .

Quote: terapined

Conspiracy?
Back in the day
I went to a Grateful dead show on the east coast
The next week you might see me at a show on the west coast
Its not a conspiracy to travel

That is hardly what I said, but I will pretend that is actually how you interpreted it.

The protesters which need a closer looking at are the ones, often the ones, well financed to cross country regularly following a controversial cause which don't seem to be able to finance their travel and lodging, and turn violent. Maybe the agitators are working for Trump, IDK?

Quote:

I have protested at a Trump rally
The difference between me, a Trump protester, and that Oregon guy
I respect the police. I listen to their instructions. I support the police
The Oregon guy did not follow police instructions. That is something I would never ever do.

We had the right to assemble and protest, peacefully. I provided a link, showing the anti-Trump crowd were swinging on the police.

I am not for Trump or a police state, and I don't approve of them all dressed like swat. But underneath that gear, they are people with rights also, and they have a right to not get hit by beligerants. I question that, and my reference was to nuclear protesters, how a group of people can afford to travel to all these gatherings and afford meals and lodging to go to protests.

I'm glad you go/went to Dead concerts and fully support you being able to do so. I also think you work for the money. When the bird sanctuary was occupied, I came right and said I was against it. They would have been more effective had they marched with signs in Portland. Although they went into Burns Ore. and intimidated people, they didn't hit anyone. It is still in dispute about why Levoy Finnicum was killed. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/us/witness-lavoy-finicum-killed-oregon/ I wasn't there, but interestingly, [to me] my friend drove right through the roadblocks unimpeded. Somebody in that whole incidence had to die. I'm glad it didn't turn out like Waco, but the feds were able to keep the press away at Waco. [Another Clinton tragedy]

When there were "occupy" protests, the rumor is their were agent provocateurs among the crowd, stirring up trouble. I don't know at these political rally's how that works. But, I still have not watched 10 minutes of this entire election. I wonder if HRC's campaign speeches get violent?

Quote: petroglyph

Say NM, AZ. and Calif. are returned to Mexico.

Why not just nuke 'em and spare everyone the trouble?

Quote: Nareed

Why not just nuke 'em and spare everyone the trouble?

It brings down real estate values. Seems like everyone around here is downwind of some nuclear leak, whether it be Los Alamos, or test sights in Nevada or Uranium tailing piles in Arizona. Fukashima catastrophe is killing the Pacific Ocean, the only thing we are missing is the flash, and the emp.

This way the ptb have plenty of cancer test patients in case Buffet or Gates or Carlos come down with big C.