Democratic Nominee in 2020

Quote: AZDuffman

A Democrat endorsing the nominee of the Democrat Party for POTUS is meaningless.

It's a political fact that every
expert agrees on. Endorsements
don't mean squat in any election
because most voters pay no
attention to them and usually
vote down party lines.

Quote: AZDuffman

So you are saying people who were going to vote Trump will all of the sudden flip to Hillary? Yang supporters would fall in line no mater what.

NOTHING is sincere in a Democrat endorsing the presumptive nominee. Zero. They are just putting their resume out there.

No, but I know some that voted Gary Johnson (Rand Paul supporters mostly)...

Dissent in a party can lead to third party votes.

Party unity is important, and endorsements are an aspect of that.

Quote: Gandler

party unity is important, and endorsements are an aspect of that.

Endorsements have everything to
do with the endorser and nothing
to do with the endorsee. Is anybody
looking at Biden today? Nooo, all
eyes are on Hillary, it's all about
her, not Biden.

Just saw a video of Kamala Harris last Ap
saying she totally believed all the women
who lodged complaints against Biden.
When asked a few days ago if she believed
Tara Reade, she had no comment. LOL!

Some of this has been mentioned earlier, but it is worth revisiting now that the allegation is back in the news...

Unless there is a viable criminal or civil suit lodged against Joe Biden, I don't see a path to actually investigating the allegations against him in a manner than is fair to both him and the accuser. I doubt that there is a path for either one of those. He holds no office. The first time I see a chance to actually do anything else that is an actual investigation and potential action against him is after the election. If he is elected, I guess he could be impeached and potentially removed from office...but that is unlikely, since we the bodies will likely remain split or even both go to the Democrats.

Makes for an interesting situation...

Quote: RonC

Some of this has been mentioned earlier, but it is worth revisiting now that the allegation is back in the news...

Unless there is a viable criminal or civil suit lodged against Joe Biden, I don't see a path to actually investigating the allegations against him in a manner than is fair to both him and the accuser. I doubt that there is a path for either one of those. He holds no office. The first time I see a chance to actually do anything else that is an actual investigation and potential action against him is after the election. If he is elected, I guess he could be impeached and potentially removed from office...but that is unlikely, since we the bodies will likely remain split or even both go to the Democrats.

Makes for an interesting situation...

Wouldn't arguments against impeachment fall under the
"He didn't do anything illegal since he took office" and
"Let the voters decide in the next election"
categories?

Quote: Dalex64

Wouldn't arguments against impeachment fall under the
"He didn't do anything illegal since he took office" and
"Let the voters decide in the next election"
categories?

Yes, of course. My main point is that there doesn't seem to be any viable way to properly investigate this allegation and that it will, for now, be adjudicated in the press. Even the impeachment possibility is a long shot.

"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it's been made worse or better over time. But nobody fails to understand that this is like jumping into a cauldron."

--Joe Biden

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/biden-reacts-kavanaugh-anita-hill-hearing/index.html

It seems like his tune is a-changin'

Should he be judged by his own standards and the standards his party has put forward in the past?

I believe in the presumption of innocence. That presumption was not provided to others by Biden and the people on the left. It is just a question; I don't think this will be anything more than a campaign issue. How do you feel?

Quote: RonC

"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it's been made worse or better over time. But nobody fails to understand that this is like jumping into a cauldron."

--Joe Biden

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/biden-reacts-kavanaugh-anita-hill-hearing/index.html

It seems like his tune is a-changin'

Should he be judged by his own standards and the standards his party has put forward in the past?

I believe in the presumption of innocence. That presumption was not provided to others by Biden and the people on the left. It is just a question; I don't think this will be anything more than a campaign issue. How do you feel?

Rules for thee
Not for me

Quote: aceofspades

Rules for thee
Not for me

Exactly.

Donny became President.
Kavanaugh is on the SC.

It’s almost as if the right is trying to hold Biden to a higher standard!