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May 10th, 2021 at 4:46:44 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: terapined
??????
Ecohealth is mostly funded by the Pentagon
Its really weird how some conservatives want to pin the virus on one man.
Are other countries blaming the virus on Fauci? Of course not
Its absurd to blame one man for the virus yet some conservatives insist on it.

and again
"Likely" dont mean jack


Facui's department is NAID. NAID is part of NIH. NIH was the funder of Ecohealth. You really should start doing your own research TP I am getting tired of doing it for you.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
May 10th, 2021 at 5:01:15 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
Facui's department is NAID. NAID is part of NIH. NIH was the funder of Ecohealth. You really should start doing your own research TP I am getting tired of doing it for you.

But
Almost 40 mil from the pentagon
3.7 mil grant over 5 years from the NIH
This is a pentagon project
also
Dr Maria C Freire PhD is in charge
yet you still blame Fauci
Groups of people in NAID and NIH make decisions, not a singular person yet you blame Fauci. Illogical
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May 10th, 2021 at 7:44:09 PM permalink
terapined
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Republicans blame Fauci for the virus
yet
Not a single country on this entire planet is blaming Fauci
Not one country and almost all have been crushed by this virus
Just one political party is blaming Fauci
Thus
This blame is political and has nothing to do with reality
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May 10th, 2021 at 9:00:05 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Pentagon officials deny Wuhan Institute of Virology given defense funds
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Pentagon officials offered a qualified denial Tuesday when questioned on whether any of the nearly $40 million in defense money given to a non-government organization may have been used for research at the Chinese military-linked Wuhan Institute of Virology, a suspected potential origin point for the COVID-19 pandemic.

Rys Williams, acting director of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and Brandi Vann, acting assistant defense secretary for nuclear, chemical and biological defense programs, told a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing that all the funds they reviewed from DTRA and other government sources did not go to the Chinese institute following reviews of grants to EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based NGO that worked closely with the WIV.


Hmmmmmm, that shoots down that bs posted earlier
May 10th, 2021 at 9:18:08 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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A memory of 31 weeks ago as we approach 600,000 deaths out of 33 million that have contracted the disease.
Quote: Kamala Harris in VP candidate debate on October 7,2020
Well, the American people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country. And here are the facts. 210,000 dead people in our country in just the last several months. Over 7 million people who have contracted this disease. One in five businesses closed.


We seem to have plateaued for the last month at around 500-700 deaths per day. Still higher than last summer when restrictions were in full swing.
May 10th, 2021 at 10:06:33 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: fleaswatter
Pentagon officials deny Wuhan Institute of Virology given defense funds


Hmmmmmm, that shoots down that bs posted earlier

Thanks for shooting down the K man post blaming Fauci for this. No way would a program funded by the Pentagon would be helping China create a virus. Fauci is not to blame. Every country on the planet knows that. Wish the righties would catch up
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May 10th, 2021 at 10:06:37 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: fleaswatter
Pentagon officials deny Wuhan Institute of Virology given defense funds


Hmmmmmm, that shoots down that bs posted earlier

Thanks for shooting down the K man post blaming Fauci for this. No way would a program funded by the Pentagon would be helping China create a virus. Fauci is not to blame. Every country on the planet knows that. Wish the righties would catch up
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May 11th, 2021 at 7:05:38 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: fleaswatter
Pentagon officials deny Wuhan Institute of Virology given defense funds


Hmmmmmm, that shoots down that bs posted earlier


“We have done a thorough look at all of our programmatic activities to ensure that at least the Defense Threat Reduction Agency’s funding to this NGO was not provided, to the best of our knowledge, into the Wuhan Institute of Virology,” Mr. Williams told the House panel that focuses on special operations."

"TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE" what a positive denial that is.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
May 11th, 2021 at 8:11:13 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
Quote: fleaswatter
Pentagon officials deny Wuhan Institute of Virology given defense funds


Hmmmmmm, that shoots down that bs posted earlier


“We have done a thorough look at all of our programmatic activities to ensure that at least the Defense Threat Reduction Agency’s funding to this NGO was not provided, to the best of our knowledge, into the Wuhan Institute of Virology,” Mr. Williams told the House panel that focuses on special operations."

"TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE" what a positive denial that is.

Come on
You really think Fauci and the pentagon together conspired with China to create Covid????????????????
Its absurd.
The only people that believe this also believe Trump won last year

Its truly telling that the only people on the entire planet blaming Fauci are Trumpers
Thats like a sliver of the worlds population
Over 99% of the people on this planet dont blame Fauci
Its an extremist fringe view to blame Fauci
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May 11th, 2021 at 10:55:26 AM permalink
fleaswatter
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US Grant to Wuhan Lab to Enhance Bat-Based Coronaviruses Was Never Scrutinized by HHS Review Board: NIH
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An oversight board created to scrutinize research that would enhance highly dangerous pathogens did not review a National Institutes of Health grant that funded a lab in Wuhan, China, to genetically modify bat-based coronaviruses.

Experts say the NIH grant describes scientists conducting gain-of-function research, a risky area of study that, in this case, made SARS-like viruses even more contagious. Federal funding for gain-of-function research was temporarily suspended in 2014 due to widespread scientific concerns it risked leaking supercharged viruses into the human population.

Federal funding for gain-of-function research was resumed in late 2017 after the Potential Pandemic Pathogens Control and Oversight (P3CO) Framework was formed within the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). The review board is tasked with critically evaluating whether grants that involve enhancing dangerous pathogens, such as coronaviruses, are worth the risks and that proper safeguards are in place.

But the NIH subagency that awarded the grant to the nonprofit group EcoHealth Alliance to study Chinese bat coronaviruses opted against forwarding it to the P3CO committee, an NIH spokesperson told the Daily Caller News Foundation, meaning the research received federal funding without an independent review by the HHS board.

Ebright said the offices of the director for the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)—the subagency that funded EcoHealth—and the NIH have “systematically thwarted–indeed systematically nullified–the HHS P3CO Framework by declining to flag and forward proposals for review.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci leads the NIAID and Dr. Francis S. Collins heads the NIH.

Dr. Fauci Likely Broke US Regulations and US Law When He Funded Wuhan Lab to Continue Coronavirus Projects That Were Banned in US in 2014

China, Fauci and the Origins of Covid
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