The City on Fire

June 13th, 2020 at 8:22:07 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Mission146
I don't care if it's Trump, the Governor, the Mayor, the police chief or Jesus Christ himself--until someone gives the order to do something about this, they are all equally accountable.


You know that is not true. Each community or State has wide discretion as to what they deem illegal or not. I would guess there is no federal law against shoplifting, for example. In general, it is up to the State to ask for the assistance of the federal government in matters like this, not up to the federal government to evaluate how good or bad a job the States or communities are doing.

I DO agree with you, that if any citizen is having their rights abridged, as in not being allowed to pass on public streets in that area, that those doing the blocking should be arrested. And all necessary force can be used, including lethal force if necessary.

I am actually surprised at the restraint Trump has shown so far. We cannot be privy to the behind the scenes conversations about this, and what the next step will be.
June 13th, 2020 at 8:38:58 AM permalink
Gandler
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU&t=929s

Sam Harris had a pretty good podcast last night on this topic. He is pretty balanced and good at reviewing both sides.
June 13th, 2020 at 9:02:25 AM permalink
rxwine
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Trump has set the tone for extreme tough talking. So we get extreme push back from the left.

Trump has set the tone for idiocy. So, I guess we get the reap from the sow there as well.

Trump has set the tone for division. Well guess what?

Trump has set the tone for lying about anything he doesn't like. Who knows. Doesn't look good.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
June 13th, 2020 at 9:17:17 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
Trump has set the tone for extreme tough talking. So we get extreme push back from the left.

Trump has set the tone for idiocy. So, I guess we get the reap from the sow there as well.

Trump has set the tone for division. Well guess what?

Trump has set the tone for lying about anything he doesn't like. Who knows. Doesn't look good.


I think you must not have paying attention with your post. You have Trump and the left switched.

The left has set the tone idiocy.
The left has set the tone for lying about anything they don't like.

Etc. Etc.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
June 13th, 2020 at 9:41:00 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: kenarman
I think you must not have paying attention with your post. You have Trump and the left switched.

The left has set the tone idiocy.
The left has set the tone for lying about anything they don't like.

Etc. Etc.


Kenarman, you don'y understand..... When the left is behaving badly.... the only thing they have is to blame Trump.

They burnt that store to the ground because of Trump.
They were looting high end purses because of Trump.
They killed the cop defending a store because of Trump.
The burnt the police station down because of Trump.
They are arrested more frequently because of Trump.

The left is the ideology of NO INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY.
June 13th, 2020 at 10:00:16 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: SOOPOO
You know that is not true. Each community or State has wide discretion as to what they deem illegal or not. I would guess there is no federal law against shoplifting, for example. In general, it is up to the State to ask for the assistance of the federal government in matters like this, not up to the federal government to evaluate how good or bad a job the States or communities are doing.

I DO agree with you, that if any citizen is having their rights abridged, as in not being allowed to pass on public streets in that area, that those doing the blocking should be arrested. And all necessary force can be used, including lethal force if necessary.

I am actually surprised at the restraint Trump has shown so far. We cannot be privy to the behind the scenes conversations about this, and what the next step will be.


Sedition is a federal offense, therefore, the federal government can respond anytime it likes.

I wouldn't call it restraint; I'd call it not having a sack.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
June 13th, 2020 at 10:01:44 AM permalink
RonC
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You have to feel for the Left. They consistently want to hold Trump responsible for everything and abandon formerly strong positions on issues "because Trump"...

Trump didn't choke George Floyd.

Trump didn't start the riots or looting.

Trump did not lose control of any city.

Trump does not want to de-fund the police.

Only someone who has not paid attention for years can possibly believe that Trump caused the racial divisions in our country. They've been here a long time, they have not been properly addressed by any of our long term politicians, and they are continually festering just below the surface. It isn't about statues or any of that, those are just distracting symbolism both in standing and in being torn down. That doesn't fix education, poverty, income levels, issues with people getting hassled without cause, etc.

Trump has been around for three years. A whole lot of people have been in DC for years and years.

Once you "get Trump", what the heck are they going to do to our country? They haven't made it better in 30-40 years.

Elmer Fudd has been re-armed, though...
June 13th, 2020 at 10:22:23 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Local news story..... 100 unarmed white protesters in suits and ties marching on a local business demanding a name change. Cracker Barrel under seige...
June 13th, 2020 at 11:01:28 AM permalink
Evenbob
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It never occurred to me until I
heard it on Fox that what's
going on in Seattle is just
the West Coast version of
Occupy Wall St. Same morons,
different coast. It will end the
same.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 13th, 2020 at 11:04:59 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: SOOPOO

The left is the ideology of NO INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY.


Trump is the very model of "I take no responsibility" if things go badly. Try to deny it.

Trump AGAIN sets the tone.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.