Biden's Biggest Blunder

Quote: Mission146

I'm not buying it. You're literally trying to, "Wise him up," by bringing this to his attention, but then you're simultaneously refusing to validate your statements with anything. You could just throw a couple links out there, at a minimum.

Translation
He's got nothing
Expects others to do his research

Quote: Evenbob

Not my job. Google works just as well for him as it does for me. It is not my job the backup every statement I make with proof. If he has never heard of Hunter Biden's laptop how was it my responsibility to wise him up. Let him wise himself up.

I have no position on it other than you can either make good arguments or bad ones. If you refuse to validate a position, then you're inherently making a bad argument. Keep in mind, what makes an argument 'good' or 'bad' has nothing to do with the actual truth or falsity of a statement. It's possible to make an excellent argument for something that is patently false.

Blanket statements don't really make an argument at all.

Quote: Mission146

I have no position on it other than you can either make good arguments or bad ones. If you refuse to validate a position, then you're inherently making a bad argument.

And I'm supposed to care? Why.

Quote: Evenbob

And I'm supposed to care? Why.

Debate, or even political conversation, is usually about trying to make the best argument. If not, then I'm not sure what your motivations are. Other than perhaps a few minor points on somewhat minor issues, and only then possible with a few people, I don't think many minds are being changed here.

Even if a mind could be changed, I tend not to think that will happen by way of reading blanket statements.

Quote: Mission146

Debate, or even political conversation, is usually about trying to make the best argument..

You think that what's going on around here is debate? You wish. What's here is someone states their opinion and if there is opposition they put their fingers in their ears and hum loudly so they can't hear it. Figuratively speaking.

Quote: Evenbob

You think that what's going on around here is debate? You wish. What's here is someone states their opinion and if there is opposition they put their fingers in their ears and hum loudly so they can't hear it. Figuratively speaking.

You know what? I do wish. LOL

Quote: Evenbob

And I'm supposed to care? Why.

You're right; you don't care.

Not surprising; your mind is closed tight, unlike mine and I suspect Mission's.

See, we really have no dog in this political fight as we're both Libertarians.

I dislike Biden but hate Trump.

Forums are for discussion, hopefully in aid of incorporating new learning into your world view.

But there's none of that with extremists such as you; you pontificate, using your head as an echo chamber, and when challenged will often either deflect or ignore.

But I understand why you refuse to back up your claims: your house of cards is built on quicksand.

Quote: missedhervee

You're right; you don't care.
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I don't care because of the mindset of a lot of the people posting here. Look what's going on right now with the fake Trump Russia dossier that was talked about on this form for years as definitive proof Trump was evil. Russia Russia Russia was all we heard. Now that it's being proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the whole thing was fake and dreamed up by Hillary Clinton to smear Trump, where are all the people here stepping up and saying wow, I was sure wrong about that. And you accuse me of being close-minded. They will pay zero attention to this investigation and pretend like it doesn't even exist. You want me to waste my time searching for things to wise them up?
Fat chance.

If the facts warrant prosecution I'm all for it, whatever and whoever is involved.

Of course things get spun in politics; always have, always will.

FWIW I've always distrusted and never supported Hillary: any woman that refuses to divorce her husband after finding out he got blowjobs from an intern in the White House does not deserve any respect, let alone any votes.

Quote: missedhervee

If the facts warrant prosecution I'm all for it, whatever and whoever is involved.

Of course things get spun in politics; always have, always will.

FWIW I've always distrusted and never supported Hillary: any woman that refuses to divorce her husband after finding out he got blowjobs from an intern in the White House does not deserve any respect, let alone any votes.

I tend to think people are a little hard on her about that, not as hard as Bill was on Monica, of course. At the end of the day, you have to figure (or, I would hope) that there's an actual marital relationship of many decades (and they had a daughter) even when you put politics aside. I just see it as a question of whether or not she chose to stay with her husband or leave him after that...when it comes to the relationship aspect, I figure cheating is just cheating---probably doesn't matter so much the precise circumstances.