Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade?

May 27th, 2022 at 3:10:41 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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I have never made a single bigoted post against religion. And, I would challenge you to cite one.

Bigoted means an unreasonable prejudicial view, all of my views on specific religions are correct and based on logic.



Not really, the appear to be based on hate and intolerance. Not quite "Mein Kamph" but bigoted nonetheless.
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May 27th, 2022 at 3:12:38 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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For example (I forget if I already posted this, but its still relevant, perhaps more so), my last office before it burned down (arson) was next to an abortion clinic (well on the same block, technically it was next to the parking lot, and we were kind of across the alley). There were constant protests, and not just in the front door, there were usually people in the alley (which was beyond annoying when trying to get in and out), and it was a small clinic (like I can't even recall how many non-staff cars were ever there, but it seemed to be pretty infrequent that they even had one patient -based on parking-). The fact that they were in the alley (which is where people who were trying to stay out of public view entered), and would berate them was pretty sick. Once they even said "We are only here to pray for the souls of your unborn baby" to me and my boss when we were just walking across the alley to our entrance from the parking lot (presumably they thought we were a couple or something and walking to the clinic).


They must act different in different cities. I had to walk past the clinic each day. There was an exclusion line in front of the place. The pro-life side was usually older women, probably nuns, and they just offered information. They bothered nobody.
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May 27th, 2022 at 3:31:30 AM permalink
Gandler
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Not really, the appear to be based on hate and intolerance. Not quite "Mein Kamph" but bigoted nonetheless.


That's absurd. You can't say I am borderline Mein Kamph and bigoted and not cite a post.


Quote: AZDuffman
They must act different in different cities. I had to walk past the clinic each day. There was an exclusion line in front of the place. The pro-life side was usually older women, probably nuns, and they just offered information. They bothered nobody.


I don't know what an exclusion line means in the context of a medical clinic (a barrier to separate protesters I would assume? If so why do they need a barrier?)

Nobody wants information from random people on the street going to a medical appointment (and they were probably doing more including filming). Imagine if you went to your routine Doctor Appointment and you had to pass a line of people saying "The Pharmaceutical companies and medical establishments are corrupt, don't go, buy natural vitamins instead, look at our brochures for natural supplements...." while filming you and uploading it to "Natural News" type sites... It would at a minimum be an annoyance. (Actually I did not experience this, but I saw with COVID vaccines as a parallel, a lot of people were protesting and filming people getting vaccines at mass vaccinations sites, while chanting, very obnoxious, in some cases being even more threatening causing some mobile sites to close).

And, yes filming people in public is legal, but intentionally filming people going for a medical procedure and publishing it to certain sites to shame them (or in some cases try to get them in trouble with their employer or to cause drama with parents/family etc....) is just scummy.
May 27th, 2022 at 3:59:56 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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That's absurd. You can't say I am borderline Mein Kamph and bigoted and not cite a post.


The post on religion we were talking about.


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I don't know what an exclusion line means in the context of a medical clinic (a barrier to separate protesters I would assume? If so why do they need a barrier?)

Nobody wants information from random people on the street going to a medical appointment (and they were probably doing more including filming). Imagine if you went to your routine Doctor Appointment and you had to pass a line of people saying "The Pharmaceutical companies and medical establishments are corrupt, don't go, buy natural vitamins instead, look at our brochures for natural supplements...." while filming you and uploading it to "Natural News" type sites... It would at a minimum be an annoyance. (Actually I did not experience this, but I saw with COVID vaccines as a parallel, a lot of people were protesting and filming people getting vaccines at mass vaccinations sites, while chanting, very obnoxious, in some cases being even more threatening causing some mobile sites to close).

And, yes filming people in public is legal, but intentionally filming people going for a medical procedure and publishing it to certain sites to shame them (or in some cases try to get them in trouble with their employer or to cause drama with parents/family etc....) is just scummy.


The exclusion zone is marked on the sidewalk. This one looks like the 3 point line in basketball but with the door to the clinic the focal point. Been there for years. The pro life side more offers literature to anyone and do not hassle at all. For a comparison I’d rate them as 1/10 as aggressive as the strip porn snappers. IOW they are very quiet about it.
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June 23rd, 2022 at 3:19:01 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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For those of you who get angry when I call them "pro abortion" instead of "pro choice."

For those of you who say "nobody supports abortion."


Yet another example of what they are really about. Attacking pregnancy centers because the women chose life.

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June 23rd, 2022 at 3:47:48 AM permalink
Gandler
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For those of you who get angry when I call them "pro abortion" instead of "pro choice."

For those of you who say "nobody supports abortion."


Yet another example of what they are really about. Attacking pregnancy centers because the women chose life.



How many people were killed or injured in this vicous attack?
June 23rd, 2022 at 4:11:54 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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For those of you who get angry when I call them "pro abortion" instead of "pro choice."

For those of you who say "nobody supports abortion."


Yet another example of what they are really about. Attacking pregnancy centers because the women chose life.



How many people were killed or injured in this vicous attack?


What does that matter? If I came and keyed your car would you ask the same thing?
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June 23rd, 2022 at 4:18:57 AM permalink
ams288
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For those of you who get angry when I call them "pro abortion" instead of "pro choice."

For those of you who say "nobody supports abortion."


Who has ever said “nobody supports abortion?”

That sounds like just a weird made-up thing in Duffman’s head.
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June 23rd, 2022 at 5:39:37 AM permalink
DRich
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For those of you who get angry when I call them "pro abortion" instead of "pro choice."

For those of you who say "nobody supports abortion."



Just to be clear, I am absolutely PRO-ABORTION.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 23rd, 2022 at 6:05:24 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
For those of you who get angry when I call them "pro abortion" instead of "pro choice."

For those of you who say "nobody supports abortion."


Yet another example of what they are really about. Attacking pregnancy centers because the women chose life.



How many people were killed or injured in this vicous attack?


What does that matter? If I came and keyed your car would you ask the same thing?



Oh it matters a lot.

If you keyed my car I would be annoyed.

If you firebombed my car and then started shooting it up while my family was in it, that is another level.

There is no comparison.

One side ("pro-life" ironically) does not mind killing and injuring to accomplish their political goals. And, yet when there is graffiti they act like they are the victims.