Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade?

June 29th, 2022 at 12:46:01 PM permalink
rxwine
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The government is still secular. Just like you can still get an abortion. Turn off PMSNBC and learn what is going on.


One nation under god,

adding god to the pledge of allegiance,

saying a cross is non-denominational and winning.
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June 29th, 2022 at 12:49:16 PM permalink
Gandler
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The problem with sports prayers in High School is that you are pressured to participate or you are not a good team member. Its the same kind of thing in the Army. Sure, you technically don't "have to" participate, but you don't want to be the guy that does not.

If you want your coach to pray in front of everyone, go to a Catholic High School (or whatever religion you are), it should not be in public schools.
June 29th, 2022 at 12:52:29 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Gandler
The problem with sports prayers in High School is that you are pressured to participate or you are not a good team member. Its the same kind of thing in the Army. Sure, you technically don't "have to" participate, but you don't want to be the guy that does not.

If you want your coach to pray in front of everyone, go to a Catholic High School (or whatever religion you are), it should not be in public schools.


It's odd, as the same people are worried about positive gender or gay influence on kids by people in authority.

Not odd really, but SOP.
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June 29th, 2022 at 1:30:06 PM permalink
RonC
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Pot, meet kettle…

Hillary says Associate Justice Thomas is a person of grievance.

She also fails to answer the question about the decision; instead, she launches a personal attack.
June 29th, 2022 at 1:32:00 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
One nation under god,

adding god to the pledge of allegiance,

saying a cross is non-denominational and winning.


That is not establishing a religion.

Those that want an atheist government should move to China.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
June 29th, 2022 at 1:47:25 PM permalink
Gandler
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That is not establishing a religion.

Those that want an atheist government should move to China.


That is actually why they were added in the 1950s, to combat communism which was perceived (rightly in most countries) as atheists (maybe more so Soviets than China at the time). The original pledge did not have a god reference.

It may not be establishing "a religion" , but it is acknowledging a belief in a higher power which is not something a secular country should do.

We don't want an atheist government, we want a secular government (huge difference). Secularity was the founding principle of the United States, and its ironic, that is one issue we seem to be regressing on in modern times (and within the last 4 weeks alone, massive regression).
June 29th, 2022 at 1:49:15 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Gandler
That is actually why they were added in the 1950s, to combat communism which was perceived (rightly in most countries) as atheists (maybe more so Soviets than China at the time). The original pledge did not have a god reference.

It may not be establishing "a religion" , but it is acknowledging a belief in a higher power which is not something a secular country should do.

We don't want an atheist government, we want a secular government (huge difference). Secularity was the founding principle of the United States, and its ironic, that is one issue we seem to be regressing on in modern times (and within the last 4 weeks alone, massive regression).

+1
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June 29th, 2022 at 1:56:08 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: Gandler
We don't want an atheist government, we want a secular government (huge difference).


In school I studied what was called "Western Christian Civilization."

Christianity is the smelly albatross the US will continue to be forced to wear for the foreseeable future, at least til lefties once again pack the USSC.
June 29th, 2022 at 2:09:33 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
That is actually why they were added in the 1950s, to combat communism which was perceived (rightly in most countries) as atheists (maybe more so Soviets than China at the time). The original pledge did not have a god reference.

It may not be establishing "a religion" , but it is acknowledging a belief in a higher power which is not something a secular country should do.

We don't want an atheist government, we want a secular government (huge difference). Secularity was the founding principle of the United States, and its ironic, that is one issue we seem to be regressing on in modern times (and within the last 4 weeks alone, massive regression).


You claim you do not want an atheist government then you say you do. From the beginning the Constitution and other legal docs said "in the year of our Lord X" instead of just a date. POTUS was sworn in on a Bible. All kinds of government meetings started with a prayer.

I realize you are a bigot and hate religion more than anything, but you are not in an atheist country. A belief in a higher power was there from day 1.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
June 29th, 2022 at 2:11:39 PM permalink
kenarman
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Gandler believes in God but in his world God is called the General.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin