In the News II

Quote: Mission146

Not really. Government rates will be significantly less than the guests would have been paying. If the government must step in, then the hotel needs to refund all of the reservations for the guests, cancel them all and then the Government needs to pay the hotel Government rate and put the locals in there. That's all I was saying. The guests need to be made whole if their reservations are to be forced cancelled and the hotel should at least make something.

Why should the hotels need to refund registrations if they were made as non-cancellable? It is an 'Act of God' and many small mom and pop operations will be having their own financial problems. If you don't like the idea of losing your payment pay the small additional amount for the 'insurance cost' of being able to cancel.

A lot of time the hotel hasn't even seen the money yet if it was collected from you by an on-line room broker.

Quote: Mission146

Not really. Government rates will be significantly less than the guests would have been paying. If the government must step in, then the hotel needs to refund all of the reservations for the guests, cancel them all and then the Government needs to pay the hotel Government rate and put the locals in there. That's all I was saying. The guests need to be made whole if their reservations are to be forced cancelled and the hotel should at least make something.

I only worked at a hotel for a few weeks (long story) but I do remember that if we had any fed employee staying there was some special deal. Of course it would not be all feds on Maui. I would concur with the post saying that there is little to refund.

I recently returned from a two week vacation in New England, and while there I learned that Maine, a progressive state, is proactively trying to integrate the migrants into society ASAP, basically welcoming them with open arms.

It seems the population of Maine is delclining yearly and they need workers to fill all the empty slots there.

The speaker complained about a bureaucratic snafu that needs correcting: it takes six months or more before newly arrived immigrants jump through the hoops to earn permission to work.

Until then, they sit idle, all expenses paid by we tax payers, which is NOT what they came here for.

They and I am frustrated that they cannot work immediately: they want to work, the work is there, but they cannot.

Gee, wasn't Kamala in charge of this?

Quote: missedhervee

I recently returned from a two week vacation in New England, and while there I learned that Maine, a progressive state, is proactively trying to integrate the migrants into society ASAP, basically welcoming them with open arms.

Did you fly to Maine? If so, which airport? I have a trip planned to Maine but I will probably fly into Augusta maybe Portland.

Quote: DRich

Did you fly to Maine? If so, which airport? I have a trip planned to Maine but I will probably fly into Augusta maybe Portland.

That’s not ‘in the news’. Try the PM function.

About the hotels being used by the government….

Local dumpy Buffalo area hotel being used to house migrants being bused up from NYC…. Supposedly owner is VERY happy with State $$ being paid. I wonder if they use fewer employees for the migrants than they would for ‘regular’ hotel guests?

Quote: SOOPOO

Local dumpy Buffalo area hotel being used to house migrants being bused up from NYC…. Supposedly owner is VERY happy with State $$ being paid. I wonder if they use fewer employees for the migrants than they would for ‘regular’ hotel guests?

My guess is that just occupancy levels being higher is a major benefit. If you can have 100% occupancy seven days a week even at half the normal profit is probably much better than 60% occupancy at regular prices.

Quote: DRich

My guess is that just occupancy levels being higher is a major benefit. If you can have 100% occupancy seven days a week even at half the normal profit is probably much better than 60% occupancy at regular prices.

Do the math DR. If you had a 10 room hotel and got $100 for 6 rooms you gross $600. At $50 for all 10 rooms you gross $500. You would also have more overhead and wear and tear with all 10 rooms filled.

Quote: kenarman

Do the math DR. If you had a 10 room hotel and got $100 for 6 rooms you gross $600. At $50 for all 10 rooms you gross $500. You would also have more overhead and wear and tear with all 10 rooms filled.

Yes, but if you got $75 for the rooms it is justifiable. Obviously it is all relative to pricing.

Quote: kenarman

Why should the hotels need to refund registrations if they were made as non-cancellable? It is an 'Act of God' and many small mom and pop operations will be having their own financial problems. If you don't like the idea of losing your payment pay the small additional amount for the 'insurance cost' of being able to cancel.

A lot of time the hotel hasn't even seen the money yet if it was collected from you by an on-line room broker.

Would you like it if I charged you for something even though I'm the one saying you can't have it anymore?

I used to manage hotels and what you are saying is not strictly correct. There are a few possibilities which I will now detail:

1.) The booking is made in such a way that the guest actually does pay the hotel directly, then the hotel remits a percentage to the third-party website. If the reservation is cancelled, for any reason that the hotel accepts (including hotel cancel) then they no longer have to remit the percentage and the guest would not be charged. The hotel would simply call the TPW and say that they (the hotel) initiated a cancellation and why they did that, which the TPW would accept for something like this.

2.) If the booking is made such that the third-party website charges the guest directly, then the TPW provides the hotel a, "One-shot" credit card that will authorize the charge to the penny. The guest could be called by the hotel and told they have to call the TPW to cancel, then the guest calls TPW, TPW calls hotel, hotel says they allow this cancellation and are, in fact, the ones who initiated it. TPW refunds guest.***

***In theory, the TPW could refuse to refund the guest, but I couldn't imagine that the guest ever uses that site again and it would be an auto-win on a charge dispute when the credit card company calls the hotel and the hotel says they initiated the cancellation.

3.) Guest books hotel direct, so you just don't charge them and refund any deposit.

Bottom Line: The guest should not be charged for a room the hotel is saying they can no longer have for any reason.

Both you and Duffman seem to really like insurance policies that shouldn't even F****** exist if all of the greedy sons of b****** in this disgusting world could find it within themselves to be the least bit equitable with one another.

Quote: AZDuffman

I only worked at a hotel for a few weeks (long story) but I do remember that if we had any fed employee staying there was some special deal. Of course it would not be all feds on Maui. I would concur with the post saying that there is little to refund.

It wouldn't be all Feds, but if the Government covers rooms for disaffected people, preferably with a preference towards elderly and those with children, then everyone could be charged the Government rate which the Government pays. That way the hotel is fair to everyone, the hotel does make something for the rooms, the guests who had their reservations cancel get refunds, the Government pays something for the rooms and everything is as fair and equitable as it can be.