In the News II

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January 23rd, 2025 at 5:45:23 AM permalink
rxwine
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Americans speeding down the roads cause more danger on average than illegal immigrants, I'd wager. Republicans make irrational claims about the danger of illegals and win no points for their argument.
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January 23rd, 2025 at 5:53:52 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: AZDuffman
The show might be fictional, but the advice is correct. If you want to say why any of that is not good police work then we can have a discussion. Can you say what part of Andy's advice is not correct? And why?


It's a fictional TV show. You get your legal advice from fictional shows? I don't.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:02:35 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: GenoDRPh
It's a fictional TV show. You get your legal advice from fictional shows? I don't.


TRANSLATION: You cannot refute the advice and ideas so you will just repeat it being a TV show.
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January 23rd, 2025 at 6:04:00 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Americans speeding down the roads cause more danger on average than illegal immigrants, I'd wager. Republicans make irrational claims about the danger of illegals and win no points for their argument.


Really? What research is this based on? Have you normed it to account for how many more Americans there are speeding than illegal aliens in the USA?

If illegal aliens are no danger then why did Democrats groan when Trump said we would begin collecting data on their crimes?
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January 23rd, 2025 at 6:10:42 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Really? What research is this based on? Have you normed it to account for how many more Americans there are speeding than illegal aliens in the USA?

If illegal aliens are no danger then why did Democrats groan when Trump said we would begin collecting data on their crimes?


Probably because Trumpies love their guns more than knowing detailed stats about them. Stop pretending you care about studies.
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January 23rd, 2025 at 6:14:06 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: rxwine
Americans speeding down the roads cause more danger on average than illegal immigrants, I'd wager. Republicans make irrational claims about the danger of illegals and win no points for their argument.


Are you saying I can’t be for both enforcing traffic laws AND deporting those here illegally? Ask Laken Riley’s parents.

I spent half of my career seeing the devastation that drunk driving causes. I want those offenders in jail.

We have elected leaders, sometimes more Democrats, sometimes more Republicans, that establish LEGAL immigration requirements. If we NEED more farm workers than we have, and can let Mexicans in LEGALLY to fill that void, then let’s do so! Letting someone ‘jump the line’ by entering illegally is a disservice to those that are following the rules.

Once again. Being against ILLEGAL immigration is not being against immigration.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:24:18 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
Probably because Trumpies love their guns more than knowing detailed stats about them. Stop pretending you care about studies.


It's not just Republicans that love their guns, legal gun ownership in this country just went past 500 million. What that means is a ton of Democrats also own guns they just don't talk about it. The United states has twice as many guns per capita as our nearest competition. We have 120 guns per 100 people in the United states. If you think all of those are so-called trumpers you couldn't be farther from the truth.
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January 23rd, 2025 at 6:35:09 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Probably because Trumpies love their guns more than knowing detailed stats about them. Stop pretending you care about studies.


Only stats I care about my gun is how is it to operate, how accurate it is, etc. My gun sits in my nightstand. Haven't fired it in many years.

But you mentioned roads and illegal aliens. What do people's guns have to do with anything?
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January 23rd, 2025 at 10:20:50 AM permalink
missedhervee
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With a republican congress and USSC we might see changes coming which modify the type of "due process" required when trying to root out and expel illegal aliens, especially given Trump's E.O. saying it's a "national emergency."

Congress might, for example, enact a law specifically allowing stopping and questioning based solely on profiling, and the USSC would OK it on appeal.

Perhaps we'll be required to carry and display ID on demand, including our SSN.

There are many things possible along those lines, all arguably appropriate given the declared "national emergency."
January 23rd, 2025 at 10:36:34 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
With a republican congress and USSC we might see changes coming which modify the type of "due process" required when trying to root out and expel illegal aliens, especially given Trump's E.O. saying it's a "national emergency."

Congress might, for example, enact a law specifically allowing stopping and questioning based solely on profiling, and the USSC would OK it on appeal.

Perhaps we'll be required to carry and display ID on demand, including our SSN.

There are many things possible along those lines, all arguably appropriate given the declared "national emergency."


Republican USSC? I was not aware that SCOTUS was elected along party lines. Heck, I have never heard members identified by party.
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