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January 9th, 2025 at 8:36:48 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Wrong. Obama was giving speeches in 2004 priming himself for 2008 and I heard many people say in 2004 that he was going to be president.


I can confirm a news channel mentioned him for it the night Bush took Kerry down in 2004. Nobody bothered to tell him he was supposed to be cannon fodder for Hillary to boost her cred.
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January 9th, 2025 at 10:29:38 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
I can confirm a news channel mentioned him for it the night Bush took Kerry down in 2004. Nobody bothered to tell him he was supposed to be cannon fodder for Hillary to boost her cred.


In 2004 I was on the Frank Sinatra family forum as a frequent poster and they were talking about Obama all the time for president. How he was so charismatic and gave such good speeches. Too bad he turned out to be such a crappy president.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 9th, 2025 at 10:35:50 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
In 2004 I was on the Frank Sinatra family forum as a frequent poster and they were talking about Obama all the time for president. How he was so charismatic and gave such good speeches. Too bad he turned out to be such a crappy president.


Being the forensics star is not a qualification for potus. Obama’s problem was he did not spend enough time in the real world.
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January 9th, 2025 at 10:46:53 AM permalink
rxwine
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Don’t let facts get in your way. Obama’s average approval rating was 48 over his 2 terms. Trump so far average is 41.
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January 9th, 2025 at 11:27:51 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
Don’t let facts get in your way. Obama’s average approval rating was 48 over his 2 terms. Trump so far average is 41.


Meaningless. Look at camel face, who's approval rating went from the mid 30s to the mid 40s overnight just because she got nominated for president. She had done absolutely nothing different than when it was in the 30s except get nominated. Approval ratings are garbage. Obama was a nothing burger president, by his own admission he spent most of his time on the White House basketball court and in the White House bowling alley. Or on one of the 100 vacations that he took.
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January 9th, 2025 at 11:36:06 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Approval ratings are fixed like the voting polls.
January 9th, 2025 at 11:40:25 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
Meaningless. Look at camel face, who's approval rating went from the mid 30s to the mid 40s overnight just because she got nominated for president. She had done absolutely nothing different than when it was in the 30s except get nominated. Approval ratings are garbage. Obama was a nothing burger president, by his own admission he spent most of his time on the White House basketball court and in the White House bowling alley. Or on one of the 100 vacations that he took.


Meaningless, as in your post?
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
January 9th, 2025 at 12:11:15 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
Meaningless, as in your post?


How is my post meaningless. You were crowing about the approval rating system and I pointed out that camel face jumped 10 whole points from doing absolutely nothing except getting nominated. This demonstrates out how perfectly useless the approval rating system is. It's meaningless.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 9th, 2025 at 12:20:28 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
How is my post meaningless. You were crowing about the approval rating system and I pointed out that camel face jumped 10 whole points from doing absolutely nothing except getting nominated. This demonstrates out how perfectly useless the approval rating system is. It's meaningless.


You're only right in that one data point is well,,, one moment in time on a certain day or week. But this is not about single data points.
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January 9th, 2025 at 1:23:19 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
You're only right in that one data point is well,,, one moment in time on a certain day or week. But this is not about single data points.


But it does show how meaningless the approval rating system is if it can jump that drastically literally overnight when a person does absolutely nothing to deserve it. What's the approval system is, it's a reflection of what the media is saying. It is nothing to do with what the public thinks, it's what the media is telling the public to think. That's what we see in the flawed approval system. This is why after a president has been out of office for a long long time his approval rating generally changes because the media is now silent.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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