Woke, DEI, ESG, and such ideology trainwrecks

I have to say amongst all this crap the idea of women in combat roles tops the list of what I am against

When you combine that bad idea with DEI advocacy, disaster can only result

Headline: "Army refuses to identify female Black Hawk pilot killed in DC collision "

of course this explains why Trump was blaming it on DEI, so the media has made sure we didn't know that, but now this slipped out

the article says she had lots of experience. Yet, if she was part of a DEI initiative, possibly she was an accident waiting to happen all this time. For those who will want to defend her, I can say, sure, maybe it was a coincidence it looks like DEI, maybe she was the best blackhawk pilot they ever had. Anything is possible, I wasn't there

On the other hand, I'm posting what I said without regret

https://nypost.com/2025/01/31/us-news/army-refuses-to-identify-female-black-hawk-pilot-killed-in-dc-collision/ .

Quote: odiousgambit

I have to say amongst all this crap the idea of women in combat roles tops the list of what I am against

When you combine that bad idea with DEI advocacy, disaster can only result

Headline: "Army refuses to identify female Black Hawk pilot killed in DC collision "

of course this explains why Trump was blaming it on DEI, so the media has made sure we didn't know that, but now this slipped out

the article says she had lots of experience. Yet, if she was part of a DEI initiative, possibly she was an accident waiting to happen all this time. For those who will want to defend her, I can say, sure, maybe it was a coincidence it looks like DEI, maybe she was the best blackhawk pilot they ever had. Anything is possible, I wasn't there

On the other hand, I'm posting what I said without regret

https://nypost.com/2025/01/31/us-news/army-refuses-to-identify-female-black-hawk-pilot-killed-in-dc-collision/ .

Okay, I'll defend her.

Pete Hegseth could have released her name. Why aren't you blaming him?

the army top brass aren't taking his calls?

If I have to back off, it'll be because she wasn't the pilot. In that case, I have to blame the headline writer making it sound like she was

the most sober way for me to come away from this, not actually knowing the facts, still has me shaking my head about the media portraying Trump as having no reason to say what he did

Quote: odiousgambit

the army top brass aren't taking his calls?

If I have to back off, it'll be because she wasn't the pilot. In that case, I have to blame the headline writer making it sound like she was

the most sober way for me to come away from this, not actually knowing the facts, still has me shaking my head about the media portraying Trump as having no reason to say what he did

He said his reason was "common sense".

I already pointed out in another thread , the DEI program for the FAA was in place the whole time Trump was President all 4 years, and he blames it all on Democrats. In fact it was further enhanced during his term.

In Trump's first term, he didn't fully realize the Mockingbird (infiltrated communists, aka deep state) influence.

Now he knows but not completely.

He's missing one group of people (even now).



Most non-MAGAs are finding out we have a communist deep state.

Trump is slowly rooting them out.

But he needs to send them to prison too, or they'll eventually be back.

Many of them are Republicans.


For example, Dick Cheney.


If he can't get rid of the fungi completely, it'll grow back.

I'm sure we have some fake MAGAs too (double spies).

They'll show their true colors.

Quote: DoubleGold

In Trump's first term, he didn't fully realize the Mockingbird (infiltrated communists, aka deep state) influence.

Now he knows but not completely.

He's missing one group of people (even now).



Most non-MAGAs are finding out we have a communist deep state.

Trump is slowly rooting them out.

But he needs to send them to prison too, or they'll eventually be back.

Many of them are Republicans.


For example, Dick Cheney.


If he can't get rid of the fungi completely, it'll grow back.

I'm sure we have some fake MAGAs too (double spies).

They'll show their true colors.

If you truly believe this, this next level paranoid insanity....

Quote: rxwine

He said his reason was "common sense".

I already pointed out in another thread , the DEI program for the FAA was in place the whole time Trump was President all 4 years, and he blames it all on Democrats. In fact it was further enhanced during his term.

So help me here. There was a bad policy in place during his last administration. He has now identified it, and put it squarely in the cross hairs. And if you are somehow trying to imply the vast majority of DEI isn’t a purely Democrat Party pushed initiative, you couldn’t be more disingenuous.

The female pilot who perished is a sad tale. She was serving our country. If she was not competent to do her job, then it is her superiors’ fault for allowing her to be in that position, DEI initiative or not.

Quote: SOOPOO

So help me here. There was a bad policy in place during his last administration. He has now identified it, and put it squarely in the cross hairs. And if you are somehow trying to imply the vast majority of DEI isn’t a purely Democrat Party pushed initiative, you couldn’t be more disingenuous.

The female pilot who perished is a sad tale. She was serving our country. If she was not competent to do her job, then it is her superiors’ fault for allowing her to be in that position, DEI initiative or not.

There are no DEI initiatives for Army pilots. This is utter nonsense. There is a (very long) training pipeline that you have to go through (like 2 years,) and at the end of the pipeline you have to commit at least10 years (so over 12 years total you have to commit to being in the Army, which at that point you may as well go for 20....)

Now, you can make much more money as a private pilot in some cases (especially over being a Warrant Officer -not commissioned pilot- as both pilots here seem to be since the training pilot identified was a warrant officer.) Because of this, the Army has a pilot shortage, and are desperate for pilots. So, the standards are currently lower than they have ever been (simply because there is zero competition for slots whereas it used to be extremely competitive with countless highly educated and qualified people fighting for limited slots.) However, less applicants does not mean DEI hires, it just means you have to take what you can get.

So, the idea that because she was a woman she was inherently responsible or the one who made the mistake, is absurd. She may have made the mistake (in fact since her name is being masked, she probably did, or at least is being investigated for the possibility) however not because she is female or a DEI hire, that is simply not how it works for pilots. There are countless amazing women pilots (I am too lazy to look up the stats right now, but on the whole, I think women are far safer and involved in less accidents, less likely to run out of fuel, etc... which does not surprise me because some men like to get adventurous so to speak when flying -especially in the Army- .)

Women are just as physically and mentally capable of flying a plane or helicopter as men are: where's the beef?

I'm glad to see women in all levels of the armed forces, given the fact that American men are loath to voluntarily serve: perhaps if more men enlisted we wouldn't have such a need to recruit but the reality is that not enough men enlist.

Gotta fill the slots somehow, and people are people: to believe otherwise is sexist and bigoted.

Quote: SOOPOO

So help me here. There was a bad policy in place during his last administration. He has now identified it, and put it squarely in the cross hairs. And if you are somehow trying to imply the vast majority of DEI isn’t a purely Democrat Party pushed initiative, you couldn’t be more disingenuous.

If a President still runs the same program through his administration, he's solely responsible for it whether it was initiated by another president. If Trump kept all of Biden's policies through this administration, it's just as much his as Bidens. Saying Trump mischaracterized the situation is way too gentle. See my last sentence at the botttom.

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The female pilot who perished is a sad tale. She was serving our country. If she was not competent to do her job, then it is her superiors’ fault for allowing her to be in that position, DEI initiative or not.

When did the trial occur? When did the evidence get gathered and completely analyzed? Trump's a f**ing idiot.