Woke, DEI, ESG, and such ideology trainwrecks

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February 1st, 2025 at 1:44:50 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: Evenbob
Or so your Libby riddled brain would like you to believe.


Please tell me what kind of mission they were on if this was really a combat operation? Were they flying down to Panama?
February 1st, 2025 at 1:47:06 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler


What is most likely to blame, is thanks to Trump's hiring freezes, and forced retirements, the local FAA was woefully understaffed and stretched too thin..... (Apparently along with 90% of towers nationwide.) And, Trump wants to force more into retirement, which was already a big issue, because the era of FAA people seems to be over, with a large batch recently on a verge of retiring with no ability to get the same level of new people. So even if the pilot made a error, I would say Trump is to blame for the potential of an error even occurring.


Trump's hiring freeze? The one been in effect for 2 weeks? That is to blame?

What are you? On dope?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
February 1st, 2025 at 1:51:32 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: AZDuffman
So, you are saying next time you fly commercial you prefer a pilot selected because she needed extra help?


I frankly don't give a damn so long as the pilot is properly trained and isn't flying drunk or high.

Tell me: why should the sex of a pilot matter to you?
February 1st, 2025 at 1:53:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: missedhervee
Because of bigoted, sexist blockheads who paternallistically would rather keep women barefoot and pregnant than to allow them equality of opporunity.

That's why...duh!


Sorry Grandpa, this isn't the 1940s when you were a kid and grew up.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 1st, 2025 at 1:57:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: missedhervee
I frankly don't give a damn so long as the pilot is properly trained and isn't flying drunk or high.

Tell me: why should the sex of a pilot matter to you?


It doesn't, as long as she has the right training and experience for the plane she's flying. And they often don't because there just aren't many of them around so they have to hire unqualified women to fill the quota.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 1st, 2025 at 2:04:14 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Women have equality of opportunity. Thing is most just want equality for the fun stuff.

You sound like this feminist I was on a piece that said how few female auto mechanics there were. Woman said something like, "we have to drag the neandrathals out of the stone ages." Did she address why women don't go into auto mechanics? Nope, it had to be that men were holding them back. Couldn't be that so many women just are not interested in the subject.


Somebody came up with a list of jobs that have very few women and it's because they can't do the job, or they have no interest in the job. Things like lumberjack, offshore oil rig worker, power restoration crew worker, truck mechanic, plumber, skyscraper construction worker, big city sewer employee, road building, the list literally went on and on and on. Women have no interest in these jobs and even if they do most of the time they're not physically capable of it. This is why people like Serena Williams in tennis say that she can be beaten by a good male on a high school tennis team. Simply because he has physical strength that she can in no way match.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 1st, 2025 at 2:24:34 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
I frankly don't give a damn so long as the pilot is properly trained and isn't flying drunk or high.

Tell me: why should the sex of a pilot matter to you?


You are the one defending DEI so you are the one it matters to.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
February 1st, 2025 at 2:50:17 PM permalink
missedhervee
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No, I am not "defending" DEI: I am only saying it is wrong to exclude women from opportunities solely based on sex.

Let them compete against men BUT ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Get it?

Don't give women, blacks or any other group preferential treatment.
February 1st, 2025 at 2:56:50 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Trump's hiring freeze? The one been in effect for 2 weeks? That is to blame?

What are you? On dope?


Read my full quote, a combination of the freeze and the forced retirements. We had an Army of FAA employees on the verge of retirement, many took that package, and many more soon will, because they already had one foot out the door, and there has not been a good applicant pool to replace them (this has been a concern for the last 5 years as the retirement batch nears, this is not new or a controversial point.)

So yes, when you have a batch that far outsizes potential applicants nearing retirement, you implement a hiring freeze to not even bring on the limited applicants that exist, and you offer retirement/resignation incentives to the remaining employees (again many of whom have been ready to retire for years,) you in a couple of weeks manage to lead the country into a state where 90% of towers are undermanned.

This is why governing is complicated. When the type of people who like to go in and whimsically shake thing up get in control, they do not realize how a small decision (short freeze and resignation packages,) can have massive impacts to already on-edge programs.

And, FAA is not some government bloatware. If FAA towers start shutting down, there simply will not be flights.
February 1st, 2025 at 2:57:12 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: missedhervee
No, I am not "defending" DEI: I am only saying it is wrong to exclude women from opportunities solely based on sex.

Let them compete against men BUT ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
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They would lose. That's why they invented DEI. Get it?
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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