Woke, DEI, ESG, and such ideology trainwrecks

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February 1st, 2025 at 3:03:03 PM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Quote: Evenbob
They would lose. That's why they invented DEI. Get it?


Fine, if they lose, they lose.

But don't set the qualifications to favor men: make them gender neutral.
February 1st, 2025 at 3:15:50 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
No, I am not "defending" DEI: I am only saying it is wrong to exclude women from opportunities solely based on sex.

Let them compete against men BUT ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Get it?

Don't give women, blacks or any other group preferential treatment.


Defending DEI is EXACTLY what you are doing.

The playing field IS level. I am on a level playing field with Patrick Mahomes. Just that he is 10,000Xs better than me.

"Level Playing Field" is code for special treatment/DEI.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
February 1st, 2025 at 3:17:27 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Read my full quote, a combination of the freeze and the forced retirements. We had an Army of FAA employees on the verge of retirement, many took that package, and many more soon will, because they already had one foot out the door, and there has not been a good applicant pool to replace them (this has been a concern for the last 5 years as the retirement batch nears, this is not new or a controversial point.)

So yes, when you have a batch that far outsizes potential applicants nearing retirement, you implement a hiring freeze to not even bring on the limited applicants that exist, and you offer retirement/resignation incentives to the remaining employees (again many of whom have been ready to retire for years,) you in a couple of weeks manage to lead the country into a state where 90% of towers are undermanned.

This is why governing is complicated. When the type of people who like to go in and whimsically shake thing up get in control, they do not realize how a small decision (short freeze and resignation packages,) can have massive impacts to already on-edge programs.

And, FAA is not some government bloatware. If FAA towers start shutting down, there simply will not be flights.


I read your quote. Trump has been in charge TWO WEEKS. Yet you blame his programs? They would not have even processed paperwork yet.

So again, what are you? On dope?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
February 1st, 2025 at 3:21:33 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
Fine, if they lose, they lose.

But don't set the qualifications to favor men: make them gender neutral.


Meaning what, exactly? What qualification favor men that are not genuine qualifications?

You sound like a feminazi John Stossel had on talking about training firefighters. She wanted the qualifications changed because carrying someone out in a fireman carry "favored men." She said dragging them out was better. He also had tape of women who simply could not handle the ladders or hoses.

Lots of requirements that "favor men" are genuinely needed. It is why men took so much control of society in the first place. Most women cannot handle the heavy and physical work as well.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
February 1st, 2025 at 4:42:28 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Defending DEI is EXACTLY what you are doing.

The playing field IS level. I am on a level playing field with Patrick Mahomes. Just that he is 10,000Xs better than me.

"Level Playing Field" is code for special treatment/DEI.


Level playing field in golf means you get a handicap so you are equal to the person that you're playing. That's what DEI does it gives the underqualified person a handicap so it appears they're just as qualified when they are not. Tournament golf is far different because there you only win if you're good enough to win, no handicaps allowed.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 1st, 2025 at 5:01:30 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
I have to say amongst all this crap the idea of women in combat roles tops the list of what I am against



Anyway, so we're eliminating DEI to not put women in positions they don't qualify for and going to not letting them compete for positions they might be qualified for.

I think you lost your way.
"Facts are whatever I say they are." - Trump
February 1st, 2025 at 5:22:57 PM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Quote: AZDuffman
Meaning what, exactly? What qualification favor men that are not genuine qualifications?

You sound like a feminazi


blah blah blah

Here's the deal, pay attention.

Men have run the show for thousands of years; in most western societies men have more power than women, and now women want to have an equivalent amount of power, to truly be seen as equal.

It is the stratified paternalism of men, camouflaged as "trying to be protective of the so-called weaker sex," that has allowed this to continue.

For example, look at the myriad jury awards against fire depts. and the police for sexual and racial discrimination.

It's all about maintaining power and control over women, both in society and of course in personal relationships.

"What fools these mortals be."
February 1st, 2025 at 5:25:27 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
I read your quote. Trump has been in charge TWO WEEKS. Yet you blame his programs? They would not have even processed paperwork yet.

So again, what are you? On dope?


I do not understand how you are not understanding this. Trump's EOs are effecting the FAA in a negative way. Musk also hates the FAA (because they don't let his rockets do whatever he wants,) so he is also harassing them with his weird department. So yes I am blaming Trump and his administration. Flying is less safe than ever thanks to Trump (and it will get worse before it gets better.)
February 1st, 2025 at 5:59:28 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Gandler
I do not understand how you are not understanding this. Trump's EOs are effecting the FAA in a negative way. Musk also hates the FAA (because they don't let his rockets do whatever he wants,) so he is also harassing them with his weird department. So yes I am blaming Trump and his administration. Flying is less safe than ever thanks to Trump (and it will get worse before it gets better.)


Trump has been in office 12 days and planes are falling out of the sky! Could you be any more ridiculous? We know you intend to blame Trump for anything and everything right down to the smallest tiniest detail in the next 4 years, but at least you could wait a reasonable amount of time before making a fool out of yourself.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 1st, 2025 at 6:12:51 PM permalink
rxwine
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I'm for women going for any career they want to if that's what they want to do. I'm for them being stay at home wives and mothers if that's what they want to do.

I don't know what the hell's wrong with that.
"Facts are whatever I say they are." - Trump
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