RFK jr unfairly treated?

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October 29th, 2025 at 9:27:41 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: rxwine
Okay, here's a response to the above.
I didn't finish the article I found, so maybe that even came from there, but I think you had to search for that. I'm glad that K is making them defend themselves, though this refutation doesn't seem to include the problem that I highlighted, "The authors, without explanation, deemed these high exposures “implausible,” even though those implausibly high exposures are routine...", and focused on the criticism of excluding "all children who died before age two, those diagnosed early with respiratory conditions" which K seemed to have just been listing .

Again, K is making them defend themselves, and I can't see what's wrong with that.
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October 29th, 2025 at 9:56:02 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
I didn't finish the article I found, so maybe that even came from there, but I think you had to search for that. I'm glad that K is making them defend themselves, though this refutation doesn't seem to include the problem that I highlighted, "The authors, without explanation, deemed these high exposures “implausible,” even though those implausibly high exposures are routine...", and focused on the criticism of excluding "all children who died before age two, those diagnosed early with respiratory conditions" which K seemed to have just been listing .

Again, K is making them defend themselves, and I can't see what's wrong with that.


As long as he takes responsibility for reduced vaccination rates.

It's always the same question for me because nothing is without risk. Which choice is the greater risk?


Well that's the main question; there are others in risk assessment. Would I play Russian roulette with a 100 barrel gun for $1000. No. For a million $, maybe. "I might give it a shot."
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November 23rd, 2025 at 7:17:52 PM permalink
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November 23rd, 2025 at 7:19:48 PM permalink
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November 23rd, 2025 at 8:10:52 PM permalink
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November 24th, 2025 at 3:20:52 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Remember, Dr. SOOPOO is probably the most vaccinated member of this forum. But what does that even mean? It certainly doesn’t mean that none of the MILLION kids had autism or asthma. It conveniently uses the two words ‘linked to’ which it really can’t determine.

What it should say if being accurate is ‘there is no difference in the rates of autism, asthma, and other conditions amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups’. And it should ALSO mention how many lives were saved by avoiding/limiting damage from the things the vaccines were being used for.

SOOPOO always ends these vaccine discussions this way…..

I can’t guarantee that there are no risks to vaccine X. But the overall risk/benefit ratio for vaccine X is less than one. For COVID it is WAY LESS than one.
November 24th, 2025 at 4:39:17 AM permalink
rxwine
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Remember, Dr. SOOPOO is probably the most vaccinated member of this forum. But what does that even mean? It certainly doesn’t mean that none of the MILLION kids had autism or asthma. It conveniently uses the two words ‘linked to’ which it really can’t determine.

What it should say if being accurate is ‘there is no difference in the rates of autism, asthma, and other conditions amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups’. And it should ALSO mention how many lives were saved by avoiding/limiting damage from the things the vaccines were being used for.

SOOPOO always ends these vaccine discussions this way…..

I can’t guarantee that there are no risks to vaccine X. But the overall risk/benefit ratio for vaccine X is less than one. For COVID it is WAY LESS than one.


I wish JFK would do something more useful with his health promotion policy like go after food labeling. Food producers are still going around clear and concise definitions. For instance:

Quote:
Cage-Free: This term means that the hens are not kept in cages, but it doesn’t mean they’re clucking around in the fresh air and sunshine. They can be kept indoors, often in crowded conditions.

Farm Fresh: All eggs come from “farms,” even if the farm is a big building where chickens are packed into cages, so this labeling claim has no value. The term “fresh” generally means the product hasn’t been frozen, but eggs in the shell should never be frozen.

Free-Range: The birds aren’t kept in cages and have outdoor access, but they can still be raised in crowded conditions and the outdoor area can be tiny. But the combination of free-range and either the Certified Humane or American Humane Certified labels on the carton means the birds can access a spacious outdoor run.

Natural: People often mistake “natural” for “organic,” but the two terms are very different. By definition, an egg is a natural food product, so slapping “natural” on it has no clearly defined additional meaning.

No Hormones: By law, chickens that produce eggs and those that are sold for meat can’t be given hormones, so eggs with this claim on the package label are no different from eggs sold without it.

Organic: This seal means eggs were laid by hens fed grains grown without synthetic pesticides or GMOs. The birds cannot be raised in cages or given antibiotics. They must have outdoor access, though in some cases this can still mean confined conditions in a building with just a small concrete porch.

Pasture-Raised: There’s no standard definition of this term, so its meaning may not be clear on its own. But the Certified Humane or the American Humane Certified labels, which have similar standards for pasture-raised hens, require that the chickens have access to a pasture with space to perform natural behaviors, such as pecking for seeds and bugs.


And this is just one product.
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November 24th, 2025 at 5:31:55 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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I wish JFK would do something more useful with his health promotion policy like go after food labeling. Food producers are still going around clear and concise definitions.
I always buy the eggs that are marked gluten-free

that's a joke, son!
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November 24th, 2025 at 5:39:51 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
I always buy the eggs that are marked gluten-free

that's a joke, son!


My sister does gluten-free. I try it off and on. I still haven't tried "impossible" meat. I've never eaten tofu on purpose. I do occasionally focus on more specialized greens than common lettuce though.
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November 24th, 2025 at 6:02:18 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: terapined1
That is the very study that RFK [I use just K] says is so flawed, making a very good case to the point we have to say 'somebody is way off base here'

Is it K? well let's see, hmmm, he made the Dems look really bad by exposing what all they were doing to harm his campaign, then he helped Trump get elected.

Is it threads.com and their ilk? This seems to be where anybody can just post whatever they want, a form of social media

Answer for Ed: obviously K is the one who is full of baloney. Who cares about all those kids with autism etc anyway?

In all seriousness, to exclude children most exposed to the chemical because they found it 'implausible', just doesn't make any sense, as these children either exist or don't exist. If they exist, then they would make a great study, just like you'd want to study the people who smoke the most to see if that causes cancer. RXwine found a response, which I reread, that doesn't address this from what I can tell. Well, maybe K is indeed full of it, just all wrong, these kids don't exist or something, but he is making them justify themselves. This is a good thing, after all it does seem to be true the vax people are insanely suggesting up to 90 jabs for children today. Almost all parents are just pulling the plug on all that insanity... "not fully complying"

I just got a flu shot btw. Came out of it OK, kind of itchy though. Not sure I'd want 89 more, and I am not in a developmental stage like a child.

all this starts upthread of course
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