Iran..

March 5th, 2026 at 1:15:56 AM permalink
terapined1
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Serious question
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice to make Iran great again
March 5th, 2026 at 5:35:07 AM permalink
rxwine
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From WSJ

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Russia is one of the biggest winners in the early days of the largest U.S military confrontation in decades, as Iranian missiles deplete stocks of Patriot interceptors that Ukraine needs for its defense."


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The biggest threat to Ukraine are Russia's ballistic-missile strikes, and the only solution is the Patriot system."


Za Rossiyu! Za Pobedu! says Putin.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
March 5th, 2026 at 8:09:31 AM permalink
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March 5th, 2026 at 8:27:51 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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This is a great post. I’ve detailed my wife’s best friend, an Iranian now an American citizen, and as ‘American’ as you or I. I know she hates the present regime. But maybe not enough to want American/Israeli bombs to be what changes the regime. Sadly, it seems only force has a chance. Protests just end in the deaths of protesters.


Does your wife's friend know that you hate her religion?


She’s no fan of ‘her’ religion. She married a Christian. She hates the way the Muslim leaders of Iran ‘implement’ that religion. Now that I think about it, I don’t think she celebrates any of the Muslim holidays. Other than her parents’ safety issues, I don’t think she thinks of ‘religion’ much.
March 5th, 2026 at 8:40:56 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Serious question
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice to make Iran great again


Not many. But it’s all part of the discussion of how much should the USA be the ‘world’s policeman’. If I told you the present regime kills 20 protesters a day and will continue to do so for eternity until deposed, how many American lives would YOU be willing to sacrifice to stop it? I don’t know my number, but it must be higher than 6.

Whenever I get into one of these ‘any life is sacred’ type discussions, I remind you we must not really believe that. Guess how many PREVENTABLE malaria deaths there were in Africa YESTERDAY. Not last month. Not last year. YESTERDAY. Best estimate is ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. Ask Geno how easy it is to prevent those deaths with drugs and mosquito nets.

Despite me looking at all sides of this coin, I still haven’t been able to conclude if OVERALL its good or not. I’m leaning towards agreeing with Geno/terapined, as the small number of American deaths do mean more to me than the thousands that the Iranian regime will continue to kill if left unfettered.
March 5th, 2026 at 9:05:34 AM permalink
rxwine
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don’t know my number, but it must be higher than 6.

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If you don’t have family members out there available to die in the conflict. I think you should say zero. (Family members or relatives you don’t give a crap about, don’t count)

In a war, we definitely initiated the current response to on questionable evidence, the only answer I can give is zero. Why would I say someone else’s family member is worth the sacrifice?
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March 5th, 2026 at 9:05:55 AM permalink
Gandler
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Serious question
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice to make Iran great again


Not many. But it’s all part of the discussion of how much should the USA be the ‘world’s policeman’. If I told you the present regime kills 20 protesters a day and will continue to do so for eternity until deposed, how many American lives would YOU be willing to sacrifice to stop it? I don’t know my number, but it must be higher than 6.

Whenever I get into one of these ‘any life is sacred’ type discussions, I remind you we must not really believe that. Guess how many PREVENTABLE malaria deaths there were in Africa YESTERDAY. Not last month. Not last year. YESTERDAY. Best estimate is ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. Ask Geno how easy it is to prevent those deaths with drugs and mosquito nets.

Despite me looking at all sides of this coin, I still haven’t been able to conclude if OVERALL its good or not. I’m leaning towards agreeing with Geno/terapined, as the small number of American deaths do mean more to me than the thousands that the Iranian regime will continue to kill if left unfettered.


More Iranians will die in the pending chaos that is about to ensue. Much, more than any protest being disrupted by an authoritarian regime.

Anyway it's weird that conservatives are against protesters being killed on Iran and so obsessed with it, but support it when they are killed in the USA...

Personally, I am fine with the military being used to treat diseases in Africa, but Obama was the only recent President to use it for such.
March 5th, 2026 at 9:48:49 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Serious question
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice to make Iran great again


Not many. But it’s all part of the discussion of how much should the USA be the ‘world’s policeman’. If I told you the present regime kills 20 protesters a day and will continue to do so for eternity until deposed, how many American lives would YOU be willing to sacrifice to stop it? I don’t know my number, but it must be higher than 6.

Whenever I get into one of these ‘any life is sacred’ type discussions, I remind you we must not really believe that. Guess how many PREVENTABLE malaria deaths there were in Africa YESTERDAY. Not last month. Not last year. YESTERDAY. Best estimate is ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. Ask Geno how easy it is to prevent those deaths with drugs and mosquito nets.

Despite me looking at all sides of this coin, I still haven’t been able to conclude if OVERALL its good or not. I’m leaning towards agreeing with Geno/terapined, as the small number of American deaths do mean more to me than the thousands that the Iranian regime will continue to kill if left unfettered.


More Iranians will die in the pending chaos that is about to ensue. Much, more than any protest being disrupted by an authoritarian regime.

Anyway it's weird that conservatives are against protesters being killed on Iran and so obsessed with it, but support it when they are killed in the USA...

Personally, I am fine with the military being used to treat diseases in Africa, but Obama was the only recent President to use it for such.


Now I know that you would have been against the Revolutionary War 250 odd years ago.

Are you being dense on purpose again? We don’t need any ‘military’ to provide drugs and nets to the malarial infested regions of Africa. We just need to allocate the resources.

I am against protesters here being wrongly killed. Pretty sure that Pretti falls into that category. Not so sure on Good. I’ll give you the last decade, which includes both Trump terms. How many wrongly killed USA protesters are there? My AI assistant estimates 35,000 Iranian protesters killed THIS JANUARY alone. So I guess I’m weird when I consider 35,000 dead more meaningful than the two deaths of note here.
March 5th, 2026 at 10:25:51 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: SOOPOO
Quote: Gandler
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Quote: terapined1
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Serious question
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice to make Iran great again


Not many. But it’s all part of the discussion of how much should the USA be the ‘world’s policeman’. If I told you the present regime kills 20 protesters a day and will continue to do so for eternity until deposed, how many American lives would YOU be willing to sacrifice to stop it? I don’t know my number, but it must be higher than 6.

Whenever I get into one of these ‘any life is sacred’ type discussions, I remind you we must not really believe that. Guess how many PREVENTABLE malaria deaths there were in Africa YESTERDAY. Not last month. Not last year. YESTERDAY. Best estimate is ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. Ask Geno how easy it is to prevent those deaths with drugs and mosquito nets.

Despite me looking at all sides of this coin, I still haven’t been able to conclude if OVERALL its good or not. I’m leaning towards agreeing with Geno/terapined, as the small number of American deaths do mean more to me than the thousands that the Iranian regime will continue to kill if left unfettered.


More Iranians will die in the pending chaos that is about to ensue. Much, more than any protest being disrupted by an authoritarian regime.

Anyway it's weird that conservatives are against protesters being killed on Iran and so obsessed with it, but support it when they are killed in the USA...

Personally, I am fine with the military being used to treat diseases in Africa, but Obama was the only recent President to use it for such.


Now I know that you would have been against the Revolutionary War 250 odd years ago.

Are you being dense on purpose again? We don’t need any ‘military’ to provide drugs and nets to the malarial infested regions of Africa. We just need to allocate the resources.

I am against protesters here being wrongly killed. Pretty sure that Pretti falls into that category. Not so sure on Good. I’ll give you the last decade, which includes both Trump terms. How many wrongly killed USA protesters are there? My AI assistant estimates 35,000 Iranian protesters killed THIS JANUARY alone. So I guess I’m weird when I consider 35,000 dead more meaningful than the two deaths of note here.


I likely would have been against a revolt against England 250 years ago. If I am being honest, and I existed in that time with only knowledge at the time, I would likely be a loyalist unless I had personal objections over something England was doing. And, the reasons for revolution were largely overblown, and I could see being dismissive at the time. I mean reading the reasons at the time for revolution, I would 100% say "I want no parts of that." And, you can mock me for that, but if you are being honest, I suspect you would too (if you were born in that era with the same brain/spirit, but no special knowledge of the future.)

I don't believe the 35k number. Even the UN says it is closer to 7k, Iran (who I don't believe either,) says closer to 3k. I tend to side with the UN on these types of issues and accept the 7k verified and confirmed deaths they state.

That being said 3k or 30k doesn't really matter, a single wrongful death is a tragedy. But, it is their tragedy, we don't need to invade Iran to solve an issue they need to workout locally. Iran is zero threat to us (unless we go there, and then it quickly can become a threat to us because we are in range.)

As for malaria/disease, who is better than the military, to rapidly setup clinics and medical bases in foreign countries? I don't see how this is controversial.
March 5th, 2026 at 1:01:38 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Serious question
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice to make Iran great again


Not many. But it’s all part of the discussion of how much should the USA be the ‘world’s policeman’. If I told you the present regime kills 20 protesters a day and will continue to do so for eternity until deposed, how many American lives would YOU be willing to sacrifice to stop it? I don’t know my number, but it must be higher than 6.

Whenever I get into one of these ‘any life is sacred’ type discussions, I remind you we must not really believe that. Guess how many PREVENTABLE malaria deaths there were in Africa YESTERDAY. Not last month. Not last year. YESTERDAY. Best estimate is ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. Ask Geno how easy it is to prevent those deaths with drugs and mosquito nets.

Despite me looking at all sides of this coin, I still haven’t been able to conclude if OVERALL its good or not. I’m leaning towards agreeing with Geno/terapined, as the small number of American deaths do mean more to me than the thousands that the Iranian regime will continue to kill if left unfettered.


Well I haven't commented on the US deaths/injuries so far. Such things happen in war and conflict, which is why leaders should tread lightly when deciding to do so. I am willing to accept losses if the mission is accomplished. And before anyone yaps I have close family who were and are in the uniformed services.

As or malaria, I remind SooPoo that Donny has eviscerated and all but eliminated any efforts to control the spread of malaria in Africa and foreign elsewheres. This was and is a mistake. US malaria control efforts were highly effective, and profoundly cost effective. In other words, thanks to Donny, there are MORE malaria infections and deaths today than there were any day before he became President again. But, that's the GOP/MAGA for you: pennywise and pound foolish.