Smoky air vs. Hot air

Quote: AZDuffman

A greater force causes "evolution" because dogs cannot have kittens that fly. Believing in heredity makes random evolution impossible.

Pshaw.

Evolution allowed shrew-like creatures to evolve into human beings over time.

Evolution led to a certain class of mammals, bats, being able to fly.

Evolution also led to certain dinosaurs being able to fly.

Who is to say that given enough time dogs cannot evolve to have pups (not "kittens") that can fly?

And yeah, it is all obviously "random:" otherwise there would never be a need for evolution...wouldn't your so-called "god" have gotten it right the first time and felt no need for evolution to occur?

Otherwise your "god" would be either playing games or just an inept clown.

Face it, chump: you were not created in the image of "god;" rather you are the end result of genetic mutation, variation and adaptation to changing circumstances, and nothing more, an ever changing work in progress shaped by random events.

Nothing special about you or me: we'll die and fade to oblivion the same as that mosquito you swat on your arm.

Go ahead, prove me wrong ... bwa ha ha ha

Quote: AZDuffman

Told you many times the earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

A greater force causes "evolution" because dogs cannot have kittens that fly. Believing in heredity makes random evolution impossible.

Evolution is never random. That is a common misconception. Traits are selected for reproductivity.

What does heredity have to do with favoring traits in offspring? Parents who procreate pass their traits to their offspring, the traits they had were successful at getting passed on.

Quote: Gandler

Evolution is never random.

Hmmm...

Variation based on mutation leading to favorable adaptation to change seems random enough to me, at least when contrasted to a "god" creating things pursuant to some form of divine plan.

Quote: Gandler

Evolution is never random. That is a common misconception. Traits are selected for reproductivity.

By a higher power, that is what I am trying to explain to you. You theophobes keep trying to say otherwise.

Quote: AZDuffman

By a higher power, that is what I am trying to explain to you. You theophobes keep trying to say otherwise.

There is no scientific evidence that any higher power influences or ever influenced evolution. And this is coming from a practicing Roman Catholic.

Please present your evidence.

Quote: AZDuffman

By a higher power, that is what I am trying to explain to you. You theophobes keep trying to say otherwise.

How are traits selected by a higher power.

If I have traits that allow me to have more sex with women than somebody else, my traits will carry on. And, eventually they will mesh with other traits from the women I have sex with and down the line, until in many generations a selection of traits survive.

For the record, such traits are not always good for society. For example, people that have the most kids now, tend to be poor and unmarried. But, they have other traits that allow them to reproduce with the opposite sex....

Evolution breeds reproducibility, it does not always breed desirability.

Quote: GenoDRPh

There is no scientific evidence that any higher power influences or ever influenced evolution. And this is coming from a practicing Roman Catholic.

Please present your evidence.

LOL

He has no evidence.

All he has is his religious "faith," i.e."belief without reason."

Unscientific AND unseemly.

Because life constantly moves across the planet is why you get macro evolution. Organisms begin to adapt to different conditions and variations in food.

It's not solely through the number of times and variations that occur within a "jar" environment where very little changes. You do get your genetic micro evolution there where dogs don't ever give birth to flying kittens.

Note:

"divergent evolution occurs when related species (sharing a common ancestor) evolve distinct characteristics to adapt to different ecological niches.

convergent evolution involves unrelated species independently developing similar traits to adapt to their environments"

So, not only do you get animals which look similar but are unrelated, but also animals that don't look similar but are related.

Most people think Hyenas look and act more like dogs than cats, but they are related to cats more than dogs. And yes life without wings has developed wings and vice versa. Moved from water to land and back.

When humans don't create artificial environments that mimic their origin, they begin to change also. Or die off if they can't survive it.

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Tibetans are physically and genetically different in specific ways that help them survive high-altitude environments with low oxygen. They possess unique genetic traits, distinct physical chest structures, and specialized blood flow adaptations compared to low-elevation populations.Genetic and Blood AdaptationsEPAS1 Gene Mutation: Tibetans carry a special variant of the EPAS1 gene—often dubbed a "superhuman" adaptation—which they inherited in part from ancient Denisovan-admixed hominins.Regulated Red Blood Cells: Unlike people from low altitudes whose blood thickens dangerously with excess red blood cells when exposed to thin air, “Tibetans’ bodies do not react to high altitude by producing extra red blood vessels.” Instead, their systems keep blood flowing smoothly while maximizing oxygen efficiency.Physical and Structural TraitsWider Chests: Studies show that “Tibetan males possess significantly deeper chests than Han males, and Tibetan females possess significantly wider chests than Han females.” This grants them larger overall chest circumferences and lung capacities to take in more air per breath.

New species created as opposed to discovered.

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The Apple Maggot Fly (Rhagoletis pomonella, ~1800s): Native to North America, this fly originally fed and laid eggs exclusively on hawthorn fruits. When European settlers introduced apple trees, a subset of the fly population switched hosts. Because apples mature at a different time of year than hawthorns, the two groups became temporally isolated. Today, they are diverging into two distinct species that no longer interbreed.

Quote: GenoDRPh

There is no scientific evidence that any higher power influences or ever influenced evolution. And this is coming from a practicing Roman Catholic.

Please present your evidence.

There is also no proof that it does not. What I do know, as I said before, is dogs don't randomly have kittens. Egg laying species don't suddenly become live-bearing and vice versa. Asexual reproducers do not suddenly identify as male and female.

Again, that is why it is called "faith." Theophobes can call it "mother nature" if "God" scares them, but it is all the same.

Quote: AZDuffman

There is also no proof that it does not. What I do know, as I said before, is dogs don't randomly have kittens. Egg laying species don't suddenly become live-bearing and vice versa. Asexual reproducers do not suddenly identify as male and female.

Again, that is why it is called "faith." Theophobes can call it "mother nature" if "God" scares them, but it is all the same.

Why don't you look up if there is any proof between egg laying and live birth? You're such an ignorant dummy.